Parker talks LED patterns on the MEP SAO, Stephen uses a CNC machine, and RadioShack returns?
Chris Gammell of Contextual Electronics and The Amp Hour join Parker and Stephen for a second time!
Today's podcast is special as Stephen and Parker have a Co-Podcast with The Amp Hour's Chris Gammell.
Welcome to the macro fab engineering podcast. We are your guests, Eric Benson offer
and Scott Hanson. And we've got an idea.
And we're your hosts, Parker
Dolan, and Steven Craig. This is episode 77. And we have an idea. Perfect. So today we have Scott and Eric on as guest on the Mac fab engineering podcast. But Parker and I are also guests on the idea tank, which is a local podcast here in Houston, run by Scott and Eric. Do you guys want to give us a quick rundown of the idea tank and what you you guys all do there?
Sure. Yeah, we we help idea people enjoy their commute. And however else they listen to podcasting, we are that guy who says, Hey, I got an idea. And either if you don't think you're being pinned in the corner by somebody who says, Hey, I got an idea. You enjoy that experience? Then we're the podcast, listen to
Oh, yeah, we just have a lot of ideas ourselves. We got started with a podcast playing disc golf. And whenever we're playing Disc Golf, we just kickback ideas back and forth to each other. And we said, one of the one of the days we were playing, we said, hey, you know, we should go have a podcast where we just give out ideas.
Mm hmm. So it's just whatever idea comes up, bring it up and discuss it.
Yeah, we do. We do pre plan the ideas, we found that if we don't know the idea going ahead of time, we got some genuine reactions that turn out well, or a long pause to think of questions. Sometimes that means the idea is really great. Because what can I say? Sometimes it's it's weighing your friendships thinking, Jared really want to crush this idea. Just a podcast. Yeah. And and so far, our fan feedback. I said, you guys kind of crush each other just a little bit.
Yeah. Just Just a tiny bit. Yeah. Oh, that's great. And, Scott, you're an engineer. You're an engineering. And Eric, you were an engineer. I'm a recovering, recovering engineer, right.
I got a paper in a tube. It's not getting out of that.
And what do you do now?
I am a web developer. Yeah.
Then every Wednesday he goes to you know, engineering anonymous,
right? Yeah. Well, for the idea tank listeners. We are the Mac fab engineering podcast, hosted by Steven Craig and Parker Dillman. Yep, we are two nerds that talk about hardware, electronics, hacking and general nerdiness.
Engineering News. That kind of stuff. Right.
So I think this kind of all works together really well. I mean, Parker and I are voracious idea creators in the that's an
interesting way to put it. But yeah, that's a good word.
Constantly like si t word there. Yo, absolutely, absolutely. Word Word Wise, or whatever the book was. Remember back in school, the vocabulary book that you had to memorize from? I don't know, maybe you didn't take that? No, no. I forgot the Oh, yeah, absolutely. So yeah, I mean, it was kind of fun. I met Scott on a bachelor party, actually. bachelor party we have a common friend and and he told me about his podcast. I was like, oh, yeah, that sounds like right down our alley. That sounds like something we could totally gig on. So this is, I guess, the second mashup, podcast mashup for the Mac fab engineering podcast, and the first for
How many episodes do you guys have?
We got nine posted on three in the Caddy. Oh, awesome. They're hot and waiting to be released.
Where can listeners go and catch that?
We are at Idea tank podcast.com. And everything is idea tank, podcasts. Twitter, SoundCloud, iTunes. And if you have a Windows phone, there's a link on our website. You can click on that link and it takes you directly to a place you can buy an iPhone
or a joke. All three users of Windows phones can use that link.
Well, cool. So I guess we're kind of gonna start off the podcast a bit with some idea tank ideas. Yeah. So you guys want to run with it?
Yeah, let's up. I do have a surprise for you guys. Okay. I heard on your podcast that there might be some division between you that there's unpaid debts. Oh, my right.
Yes, yes. There is an unpaid debt. You You are you even
you owe Parker? The worst six pack of beer available? Correct.
I bet this is true.
I do. Alright, so we're not going to come on your on your podcast without bridging the gap.
So we're healing wounds here.
Yeah, absolutely. Oh, he's bringing he's bringing something out the It is paid.
We found it at Fiesta foods because you know, I don't know that he that he needs to have Zema
okay, this is officially the best guests we've ever had. Well done. There is a pack of Zema for you, Parker. Congratulations for for making a PCB with zero issue. I'm just shocked
that they still make Oh it says limited release. That means it's better right
it's the small batch.
Oh yeah. The Select reserve. Yes. Yeah, it's
like when they remade What's the 90s Energy Drink? Sir. You can buy it on Amazon now. Yeah, it's like that except in
crappy searches. Actually. Alright.
Dollar Tree the other the other day, sir. Yeah, no, I almost bought some but I was really hankering mountain. Do you
remember how bad it made your teeth hurts. You can do that all over again by buying.
The thing about having surges like I want to watch. Drink it while playing Goldeneye on Nintendo. 64. Oh, you're watching. Like? Yeah, exactly.
Oh, that's perfect. Yeah. Legends of the Hidden Temple. Yeah. Oh, man. That show was awesome.
Purple penguins. Yeah, that's right.
All right. Well, now we got our zoom. Are you guys ready to Yeah, no,
I think we're ready to cruise. Now.
Let's do it. The Zema cruise. Know what we're gonna make that the secret code word that I want people to type in to their email. textfield
Zema Oh, they were okay. Zema Cruz is the secret code word. So on the Mac fab engineering podcast. We have We present a code word every week. If you email this code word to podcast at macro fab.com along with your address. We'll send some cool swag your way. Wow. So Zema Cruz. Personally, we pick something really ridiculous. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
Zema Cruz is nothing more ridiculous than that. Yeah, that's
perfect. All right. Let's shoot some ideas.
That was your idea.
You want me to start? Yeah. All right. Gentlemen, last mile transportation. Are you familiar with it? What was it last mile transportation?
No, no, I haven't heard of that.
Is it like Uber? It is. Uber is
is kind of like that. Imagine if you were in a city, unlike Houston, like New York City. Or if you were in one of the major Chinese cities where you have mass transit. You mean
one where people actually live next to each other? Yeah, okay. Not Houston, Houston.
In those cities, there's an efficient way to get from hubs to hub but that last mile from the efficient hub to your home or to your destination, that's considered the last mile and there's a lot of companies out there making products to to get you there. electric scooters hoverboards were in are in that category. And electric skateboards so but there's there's an issue last mile transportation is being seized by the cool kids. That crew. I don't know if we were part of that crew. Maybe Maybe Scott because he also has a business degree.
Oh, maybe even outed.
Alright, wait, wait. So you were talking about like electric scooters? I'm thinking segways Yes. A segway has
this is this is the the niche that kind of shamed segway for producing a 3000 to $6,000 product. Because the the market is really underneath 2000. Okay, well under 2000, all the way into the three hundreds for hoverboards personal last mile transportation. Gotcha, gotcha. So we're going to bring the power back to the people with this idea. Alright. So the last mile tech is going to skateboards, all of the the movers and shakers, the investment and the powerful technology, it's going into that it's it's not in the scooters. It's not even hoverboards a little bit, but that's there. Those are tricky and pretty terrifying to the common common man. And electric bikes. They're getting a lot of play, too. But the beauty of the Last Mile transportation device is you can take into a coffee shop, you can take it into your destination. You don't have to park it anywhere. You don't got to lock it up. It's small enough to where
yeah, I'm not with you.
Yeah, that'd be light enough. You can pick it up and store it.
You can even put it like in your backpack and just take it with you.
Yeah, yeah. So all that momentum going directly into skateboard. That creates a problem for people like me. skateboards are difficult to ride. They're dangerous. Yeah. And you know, they're not suitable for rough terrain, especially in the developing world.
Yeah, I mean, there's rough terrain right out here in Houston with potholes to
skateboard requires skill to actually operate.
Absolutely. I can you guys ride skateboards? I can get there. Yeah. Scott came right? You mean he was business degree? Part of the Yes,
though. Skateboarding one longboarding one on one? Yeah, yeah, they teach it.
So the problem is anywhere from nobody's going to notice to all out class warfare and that's what we're trying to solve. Here. I think here at the idea tank, okay. So the solution, Scooter fi, take your skateboard and turn it into a scooter with this product.
Oh, like is it gonna be like a stick that suction cups on top of the scooter, not just a sash onto the skateboard with
one simple clamp. You can turn your electric skateboard into a safe, easy to ride scooter. The E skateboard just got scooter fine.
So it's a bar that you you clamp to the top of the skateboard.
But Scott, it's so much more. And I got a bulleted list to to explain. So you clamp it right to the board. We were thinking of replacing the front truck. But now Now we just easy easy on and off. Clamp it right to the board. The front wheel has a larger diameter wheel for road bumps, potholes, and rail tracks. Y'all know Casey Neistat? Don't think so now, he grew his YouTube viewership from 1 million to 7 million with a daily vlog and a company and he's he's well known for a lot of things. One is riding a Boosted board, which is a electric skateboard very powerful. It has a range of about nine miles and he's very talented on it, you would say he's the exception, not the rule in terms of what skill level it takes to ride a skateboard. Okay, he went to Holland and ate it on a rail track because his his wheel got stuck in the rail
track. Oh, he didn't go perpendicular to it kind of and that's got like a billion views on YouTube.
you get Yes, yeah, yes. Yeah. Guaranteed to retire from the income. They can't. Even once.
He's got as many views as Jimmy Fallon does every night. Oh, wow. Yeah. Three to 3 million a night.
Wow. That's ridiculous.
Never heard of this guy. Yeah, yep. Okay,
so what else you could put on there, the front wheel is high and low frequency shocks for the for the big bumps and also the the road vibration. Big difference from from a skateboard. Obviously, a sturdy, wide and familiar bike handle folds out for the rider. Okay, that's what the common man is, is used to the comfort level.
Okay, yeah, wide grip as opposed to like a what are the little razor razor razor? Things you don't you don't turn very quickly on those though. I've
not that hard. Yeah, I've actually been more times on a Razor scooters than a skateboard. Yeah.
And the last element to version one would be a regenerative braking on the front wheel, which charges a separate battery. And you could charge that battery because you can't just plug in a electric skateboard to another battery for some reasons. Some of them you have to, you can't operate it while it's going on. So you use the technology to get you across Manhattan or across a Chinese city. And then when you're at your coffee shop, you can plug it into the wall, okay to get you back or you can have this secondary battery ready to go. It's recharged with regenerative battery charger, phone charger, charger, certified electric electric board, and you're good to go. That's
cool. You know the whole time what's going through my head and I can't escape this image is the pink Mattel hoverboard from Back to the Future to the one that has just like the straight stick standing straight up for the handlebars that Marty McFly steals from the little girl for some reason, like that's, that's in my head and I know that's totally not the idea of what's going on but that's I don't know. That would be cool. If Mattel made a version of it like
that. I'm I'm willing to sell this idea for to Mattel.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So be willing
to sell that idea to anyone. I'll give you money.
Oh, yeah, for sure. And pneumatic tires, right. New pneumatic wheels for for the terrain, right.
There's nothing in my bulleted list about tires. So yes, larger tires. Yeah, I think it's the diameter that I'm yeah, the problem I see is the is a small diameter. And yeah, and to be honest, in this community electric skateboard community because like I said, the Boosted board goes under 10 miles. There's competitors coming out that are up to 30 miles. Oh, skateboard. Yeah. So there's miles per hour. 30 miles per hour and 30 miles.
Well, they go they go much faster than 30 miles an hour, Gary. We actually built a electric skateboards at macro fab for a while. Yeah, so we did. Well, we didn't build the build the actual skateboard we built motor controllers for and trust me those things all those things will move. Yeah.
And there there is an electric scooter niche as well. Which might develop right now they have a razor style scooter for about 300 to 500 bucks from I think swagtron is the name swag trunk swagtron That's a great name
I like swag trunk
you know what I guarantee that exists? That's a pay for every month and you get a box yeah you
get like a like a loot box I think it's what they call like great okay Loot Crate or whatever but it's a it's a box full of like random company swag you
get Yeah, yeah, it's swag trunk. I like it.
If it's not it should be that's a great idea. Yeah, yeah.
The the only problem I see with this kind of podcast is that you give away so many good ideas.
I mean, we are that generous.
Yeah, yeah. So I pivot off your your add on for skateboard idea right. I would use if you can get electric Heelys.
Heelys. Oh, they
have those they do. I think, Oh, well. They're they're kinda like Healy's but the diameter. You put your whole shoe into it. So I guess it's not technically hilly.
it's like a it's like a roller blade where you take all the front wheels off of it's just got the one in the
it's got two big ones in the back. Side. Yeah. I have been skating since I was four. Oh, that terrifies me.
Yeah, probably should. Oh, two.
They are powered. One is powered. Well, I looked into read through like, oh, maybe I could do this. Because I can't skateboard. And you tried it. No, I was too terrified by the picture. I want this product that I'm that I'm envisioning. Yeah,
you should go buy those and then put it on YouTube.
And use by next Thursday.
Yeah. We give you one week.
Wait, there's more. Oh, okay. So if you if you put a larger front wheel on this, you've got an angle now on the skateboard. Okay. So you, your and your weights going to be to the back. And they're the shock is no longer there. So imagine you remember those cartoons or blacksmiths where they have the little puffer thing? The bellows bellows? Yeah, yeah. So imagine a like a hinge Abello that you would put on the back of the skateboard. That would level out the back. The back footing? Mm hmm. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. And that would have the same high frequency low frequency shocks. So that you can just smooth out the ride. Oh, cool.
I dig it. So I saw actually just the other day, an electric scooter. That's that's in the same kind of world of what you're talking about here. But the whole thing collapses and folds into a briefcase. Such that it itself is portable. And it's not like super James Bondy where you like throw the briefcase in it like pops open into a Yeah, I'm sure it's like 20 minutes of setup and like putting pins in it. And so
if you make something that by the way unfolds, like from my briefcase to a scooter it's got have smoke cartridge. So when you do like, toss it, yes, the scooters there.
Yeah. But somehow the letters show up in the smoke. It's saying poo. But it would be kind of cool if the if this skateboard was was able to easily disassemble, such that you didn't have to carry around even though it's already portable enough. If if you could somehow like clip the board to your backpack and then clip the trucks somewhere else in the backpack such that it all like, you know became very easy to carry and something that like kind of like, got very transportable.
It's like hands in zoo lander. Yes. Yeah. We're throws a Razor scooter over his back. Yeah, yeah.
So they got coolers. Like they put your beer and stuff in that you can ride around on? Yeah, yes. Guy coolers. Okay. What if instead of a cooler, it was the briefcase. I've seen that. But so basically, you take the briefcase, press a button. Wheels pop out on the bottom, and a little handle pops open.
telescoping handle. Yeah.
Yeah. Right. That's that's the business model. That's the that's the executive model.
With the leather trim, right.
Have you seen the suitcases that you can ride around the airport? Oh, yeah. And
there's suitcases that will follow you around and stuff like that, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was seems super lazy to me though. Yeah. You really have
to not care about things to have that.
Yeah. Just the pole your suitcase around.
And is it now that it's not touching you? What if somebody takes it?
Yeah, that's true. Yeah. What is it? Do you wear like some kind of wrist or something and it has to know us somehow.
It's probably an app on your cell phone that Like follows wherever the cell phone is. Yeah, that will do Bluetooth. Yeah.
So you just have to steal the cell phone.
I like this idea. In applied to indoors. Oh. So I was just at the the medical center before I came, came to the podcast here. And I walked forever in the medical center, like in between buildings in between these different hours. And I was thinking, as I was walking through there as like, there's got to be a quicker way to get from where I'm going to where I need to be.
That is the last mile niche. Yeah,
exactly. And so I like a product like this or whatever. If it's a briefcase or something else that you're sitting on, I would love.
Yeah. The Last Mile solutions are coming specifically for this one. It's that the investment is going heavily into the skateboard niche. And this is just the transition between the skateboard niche, and people who can write or salute. It's a solution for someone who can't ride a skateboard. But once the power and the technology that's going into the skateboards,
Scooter Fae beautify,
you know, and the design of it. What's interesting is, when it comes to these kinds of devices, what I've noticed is that people tout, you know, either either it's all about high speed for thrill seekers, or it's about oh, this thing can go 100 miles on a single charge. But if it's really about the last mile, it doesn't really need to have 100 mile capability, you know, if it has five mile capability, in a lot of cases, that might be enough, which makes the design significantly easier. So it could bring down the cost.
I would say, I would disagree with that. Because you don't want to be you don't want to be plugging in your thing every 10 minutes. Not necessarily 10 minutes, you know, that's what
you can sell to the coffee shops is like you know how you like the Tesla charge station charge docks? Yes. Take your squirt skateboard and slap it up on the wall and then it's being charged up while you're drinking your fancy $8 Coffee.
So instead of coat hangers, we have school defi hangers at the front of every coffee shop.
I think you need to go buy that domain school device.
Yeah, like South swagtron I
might as well get swag.
Swag trunk is Yeah. It's cool to fi I thought it was just going to be a skateboard. That was a Wi Fi hotspot. Oh,
why don't Yes, yeah, that should be implemented.
Right? I can have internet for the few seconds that that guy scoots by me.
of them. Oh, okay.
So they just, they just end up becoming many cell towers. Yeah, but they're all skateboard. It's
way better than the the Google the Google airline planes if they're doing say the Facebook is doing or Facebook. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like, Wi Fi drones. Yeah. Yeah. Scooter drones.
Alright, so this is after idea. We do have deconstruction, so you feel free to tear it to shreds if you want. All right.
That's really I think it's a cool idea. Other than other than a handful of challenges being the what I can just envision being difficult to manufacture at a reasonable cost. Other than that, I think it's a really cool idea for our location here in Houston. It may not be super viable, but I could see it being in a, in a really densely populated metropolis, you know. So,
yeah, and I think to your question, question earlier, for us, in Texas, in probably college would be the best example I've ever thought of escaping the car world. We live close to campus, and I biked in. That was the best for me, because I don't like using mass transit. It's, the hubs are far away. So since I don't have a scooter fi or any skateboard, because it didn't exist, then I just used a bike and locked it up. Well, we weren't in Manhattan at Texas a&m. So it worked. It worked well. So I would use this. I would use any of these last mile technologies for a lot more than just one mile. But big picture. I would if I was these companies, that's what they're doing. I'd focus on New York and San Francisco, and Asia. Yeah, so Houston, not exactly a target market. I
like how you put two cities, two US cities and then you just lumped Asia all as entire continents.
Big City. I could see potentially, I don't know exactly how this would work. But say you get off at a at a bus stop or subway stop and they have these devices. They're such that you could you know you pay so much money or whatnot. I'm just I'm just Oh share, Ram guys share program where you take it home and in the morning, when you come back, you bring it back and put it back on the wall. You've paid I don't know however much money and it gets you from the bus stop back to your actual home. Okay, I don't know. Might be that way you don't have to actually own it.
Have you seen the the socialist bikes at the various cities that they have now? No, I don't think so. So they're they're socialist bikes. Is that the right yeah, they stations where you can park all these bikes? Sure. And but they're also sponsored by a company like the ones in New York or city. city bikes.
Okay. The bank? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you you grab a bike, you can you can get like a weekly pass. Take the bike and ride it wherever you want. Right. You could take it to the next level and make them e bikes, E E, skateboards, or scooter fine. Or scooter. Killer. Alright,
I think the only big problem with it is, is the helmet issue. Oh, yeah. Because no matter how awesome helmets are at protecting your head, you still look like a goofball.
Have you seen the inflatable helmet though?
I have that sounds even worse. I think is awesome.
I think it's like a collar that you put her Oh, is
it? Okay, so it's like the inflatable life jackets then wear it? I don't know if y'all seen because there's life jackets that are just empty bladders and have a co2 cartridge. And when they get jumped into water, they inflate. Yeah, it's like water. Okay. Yeah. So it's just like that, then? Yeah, I
think they sense a fall. They can sense the acceleration change. And it automatically inflates.
i So back in college, I can't remember what class I was taking. But one of the professors put up on the on the projector a bunch of random patents, like did just things that it's like people have actually patented this. And one of them was a completely inflatable suit for riding a motorcycle, where every part of your body would instantaneously just explode into a giant balloon in case you were rejected off. Double oh seven. Do they really? Yeah, there was a maybe they actually use this baton.
Die Another Day. Yeah. When he's falling down like snow. or something. Yeah, he's
an avalanche. Yeah. Oh,
we need to post the the picture of that patent because the images are hilarious. It's like a cartoon of this guy like flying to the air. And then he just explodes. And he looks like, like a float, isn't it? Yeah, I wish I had smoke. Oh, that's great.
All right, cool. Well,
I got more, okay. I am going to make this thing small. I don't seek customers buying this thing. Because like when I'm traveling around the city, the last thing I want to be doing is lugging around. Like, I'm imagining this thing's probably going to be like around the at least the 10 pound range. That's fair. Yeah. And just, maybe you could have it so you could instead of like strapping it to your back. You could tow it behind you, like use it to big front wheels, maybe carry it that way. But it's just like, I don't want to, I don't want to haul around 10 pounds.
Oh, yeah, for sure. So I mean, I think the the idea with last mile technology is you're only carrying it when you're in a better larger form of transportation, that being a bus or subway. Other than that, you're riding it. Other than that you're sitting in a I mean, you're Where else would you go with these things besides a hipster coffee shop? That's true. So then you just have to take it from the sidewalk into the coffee shop.
Now it would be even better is if it could combine if it was like an iPhone thing. That's even more hipster going or you could write your your your book. You're working on it.
Are you are you saying we should just add luxury features and shine to it? Oh, yeah. Oh, so we can charge more?
No, that's why so yeah, that way you get the Silicon Valley guys to invest in it. Oh,
yes. Did he? Did he say silly con? Yes. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, never heard that.
And I have a I have an Apple product on my lap and an Apple product in my pocket. So as I
was going there you guys want to move on to the next idea? Let's do let's do it. So how about we present an idea that we came up with?
Pick your pick. I like your first one. Stephen. Okay. So it's all because I think after that one will go through mine because mine are really short. And really the map ideas Yeah, just throw that out
there very much. Yeah. No, they were they were fun to come up with so well. Shotgun yours after this. Yeah. So I had an idea maybe five years ago, and this is total pie in the sky, which is which is fun. I actually used this idea on a job application and it got me an interview. Oh, but I used it because I already had the idea. And I and I wanted, I wanted to somehow do it. So space pirates. We do not have any space pirates yet. It's a, what I was interested in doing is actually becoming the first space pirate. And like, he's not talking
about commandeering satellites or the ISS, no,
I was talking about gathering up the resources to actually launch the first space pirate radio station. So create your own satellite that is capable of sustaining itself via solar power, send your own satellite to space, put it into orbit and broadcast a radio station through which people can upload songs to and put it in a queue. And then you broadcast to the earth you brought. That's awesome, your own space pirate radio. So you kind of defy space to find. The satellite has to have an eyepatch on it. Yeah. And the Jolly Roger. But but so the idea kind of came about with the fact that radio in Houston is not very fantastic. In my opinion. Yeah, you don't you have a bunch of options, and they're all bad. And I was like, how cool would it be if you could have traditional radio, like what you just pick up with an antenna in your car. But you had the ability to somehow log in with an app or something of that sort beaming up there. And you can put a queue of songs together or potentially have people like vote on songs that this pirate radio station plays?
That's awesome. So
it'd be almost basically, you know, cut it'd be almost nationwide. Well, until the satellite passed and went to somewhere else.
Well, I did a bit less research satellite was in geo geosynchronous, I think. Yeah, they've got three or four satellites that are are in geosynchronous. Yes, that means they they same stay in the same spot. So over the over the earth, yeah.
Okay, so I'm gonna I'll jump ahead real quick to the to the destruction part of this idea. Just
stroking your own I am.
And I am because I just want to I want to that's a normal met
thing, by the way. Oh, yeah. Okay, but
just because that I that part right there. The geosynchronous is perfect. But the problem with it is the highest an amateur rocket has gone right now is 120 miles. And geosynchronous is 33,000 miles. So getting that far is kind of Has there ever
been a hobby rocket that went into orbit? No. Yeah. So that that would be a first The first factor is you have to build a rocket that can go into orbit. And and no one can know about it until you launch it?
Okay, good news for you guys. So there's a lot of setup. A lot of rocket companies that they they basically attach a little nano sets two. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I'm imagining this thing doesn't need to be very big, right? Well, yeah. What's the engineering behind it? Like, you just need to have a circuit board that just repeats?
Well, it would have to have it would have to have a transmitter. Yeah. And then it would have to have some kind of power management, and whatever brain for thinking about the music.
Yeah, it wouldn't need to be all that big. It doesn't need to have complicated systems.
And for what I've done in my research, broadcasting radio laterally across the earth, requires a an unbelievable amount of power. And in fact, when you broadcast radio laterally, you actually waste like 99% of it because you're just shooting upwards. But if you have a satellite that's pointing down towards the earth, that actually requires a very little bit of power to actually get your signal to Earth. So it lends itself to being small ish. In that sense.
You know what I would broadcast first was that I would I broadcast let people know the Parker just took Azima Yeah.
How can you describe it to us? Yeah.
It tastes like pirate radio.
It's very sweet.
Yeah. Um, I actually if if I was outside right now, because it's about 90 degrees with like, 80% humidity. You know, typical Houston weather. They would actually yeah, if you're outside working that's that's not bad.
Wow. So maybe not the worst beer ever. If he can call. I don't want to
hear I think it's a malt liquor. refreshing citrus
beverage. I was just about to say that's what it that's what it says. Simulated rice wine beverage.
Yeah, it's actually not bad. I don't know why. I guess it's made beer snobs I probably racket then probably because I don't think it's it's not the worst thing I've ever tasted before.
Congratulations on your your fully working PC board.
A question Question to the pirate? Yeah. Did you think of this idea before data was unlimited? And people were watching YouTube videos in their car driving around?
They Okay, so that's a good point. Yes, I did. Sure. The the allure of being known as the first space pirate, it trumps any kind of technological advancement that makes listening to music, in my opinion, at least Sure. Just because I think it's a cool
idea. I was thinking, you know, a good prototype would do, you know, because we had the Stanford lunar days. Yes. That would be a really good platform to prototype on because they're near edge of the space. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And then, like, what if instead of getting that thing to orbit, you just made something that was either usable or cheap enough where you just sent it up in California and that landed in the Atlantic Ocean, and you just sent one up every three days? Sounds? reoccurring revenue.
reoccurring expenses? Yeah.
Are we selling this? Are we buying this?
Well, Stephen will be making them selling selling sounds like a great idea. Yeah. Future Space Pirates will be buying them. Hmm.
I think this is one of the huge marketers gotta go. You gotta go all out. You need to get the satellite up there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
it will. Okay. So and completely I know it's pie in the sky. But I actually a few years ago started playing around with making my own rocket fuel, just to see if it was easy. Oh, really. And I totally made some rocket fuel.
What were you making it? Well, so kind of rocket fuel to what was solid. It was solid
rocket fuel. I, I did some research online. And I know this is total, like basement chemistry stuff. But but some of the ingredients that went into the slop that became this rocket were tree stump removal in granulated sugar. Because you have an oxidant. And in a carbohydrate, yeah, there. And trust me, that stuff works. So that yeah, it works really well. I had a six car garage at the time at a warehouse. And I lit a little cigar sized rocket in there. And that whole that whole garage became filled with smoke in a matter of seconds. Wow. I'm pretty glad that the cops didn't. In fact, what was funny was my landlord that I was renting this warehouse from was a cop. But he did not see it. So yeah, I mean, it got serious enough for me to mix random chemicals from Home Depot.
That's, that's I think the the hardest thing about that idea is it would be pretty easy. I think, comparatively to design a satellite and your, your home basically. And, you know, make it so they can transmit and receive and do all those things. The hardest thing is
getting getting in there for sure. There's no hardest thing that is by far the most expensive thing. Yeah. Yeah.
And just it's not even just like getting into the space because like you can, you know, maybe disguise it as a as a university CubeSat project. And then that goes up. But
it's like, switch. It's awesome. It's like switching the sails. Like you're flying. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. They're space pirates.
Like the, like the the on the ISS. They released the payload for the the the cube sats. Yeah. And like they released that one. And it just like turns around, and it's got the pirate logo.
Like it? Yeah,
I guarantee you. There are rules for space that many, many nations have put together. We are probably not privy to most of those rules. No. So I don't know, like, would this get shot down with this get destroyed? I don't know what
the who owns space. It is US Air Force has got that thing that can. It's like the mini space shuttle. Oh, something something? Yeah. A word captures?
Yeah. You know, what was the thing during Reagan's administration to Star Wars? Yeah, that thing's got to be flying around up there somewhere. Right. It would probably take it down. I don't know. But it would be cool to be to go into history books because you would, you know,
the first place.
But I mean, that's,
I mean, there are things that are worth it. You know,
Now could it be that you would not be the first space pirate? How would you know if a pirate has not already been up there? Hmm.
Well, you know, I'd have to I'd have to research it. I haven't. I don't know if there's a first face pirate. Well, maybe
you know, because radios still so bad.
Yeah, yeah, there we go. Maybe. Yeah, but would it be okay, so, I guess, FCC laws. You You'd have to somehow register this satellite to then utilize apart then. Yeah. Oh, good point. You're not Yeah, you right? You have to do it without permission in order to
launch the rocket and put this thing up and broadcast with no government saying or permits or anything. That's the how Yeah,
I think the way to go about it is build the rocket do it, and you get enough support to go behind you to be behind you. Yeah. To that everybody loves you. And you stick it to government that way. You right.
Okay, so that's that. Yeah, that's that's asked permission later. And once you have enough force behind you, they'll just be like, okay, whatever.
What's that? What's that? Um, nation that's out. It's on an oil rig. See Sealand? Haven't heard there's a nation what's not recognized by most nations, but it's a perfect oil rig reasons. That's basically it's I think it's Sealand. That's its own country.
Yeah. Yeah. Conceptually, it's this where there's land out there. That's not wanted, or, or rig Nora. Yeah. And people will claim it as their own.
And this thing's been around for like, I think 40 years now, this place. I bet you if you pitch your idea to them, you could launch from there. You could launch and have your station there, huh? Girl? We also build it there. Yes. Yeah.
It's good idea. Or whatever.
That's your one customer.
Your idea because they don't have a radio station. They're like, Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah.
What did he What if he launched the satellite started the radio station. But then all the requests? Were for top pop songs that were terrible anyway. Hmm.
Or just Stairway to Heaven? Oh, yeah.
Non Stop? Oh, my gosh, that would be Yikes. Um, I, you know, I, I've thought of that inevitability. Because if you give everyone the option, then what you'll end up with is what you hear on the radio. Right? So I haven't worked through the details on that. I don't want to make it sound like super snobby or anything like that. So I don't know exactly how that would work. Maybe you'd have like, different times of the day when there's like certain styles or something.
I'm curious is like XM Sirius have something like that? Right now where users can go and say, hey, I want to listen to Stairway to Heaven right now.
You know, possibly, in fact, a buddy of mine. I know, one thing that they do is they allow people to sign up to be hosts on certain shows. Like my buddy was a host on a heavy metal show. One night, he just he signed up. And for like, 30 minutes, he got to be a host. And he got to play whatever he wanted. And it was kind of cool, because it was it was sort of like, music share for everyone where you could to hear Jeff's style and what he really wants the world to hear. So in a sense, yes. But it's a little bit more manual, I guess.
Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. All right. You want this silly ideas? Yeah. Let's
chuck on a shoot a couple of years.
Okay. So this is all just chop them down? That's not possible. Yeah. Yeah. All right. First one, earn this and earn you RN. It's a payment program so that when your loved ones die, you send in $15 and a body part. And then after all your payments are done. You get the cremated remains back.
case you can't afford everything at once. Exactly. You you do it. You know what? Our arm in the leg at a time? Yeah. Oh. That's your slogan. It only costs an arm and a leg. Well, we forgot to mention these are not just silly. These are terrible. Absolutely terrible ideas. Yeah, brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right.
Second one. Ever kittens?
Okay. Kittens that never age. Yeah. Oh, genetically modified. Now
we modify cats, so they never get past the kitten stage ever. Puppies?
Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, well, that would that would be a separate branch. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, some people have tried to actually do that because have you ever heard of like the one of the called micro pigs or something? Yeah. They sell they sell pigs as pets. And you buy them they're they they're a bit like the size of a small puppy and and families buy them and it's like, Oh, we got a pet pig and they're great. And they live a very, super long time. But there is no such thing as an actual micro pig pigs grow to be the size of a pig. And you know, within two or three years they've got this monster it's in their house. And it's actually been like a really big us
harvest bacon then go Yeah, yeah, that's the
crispy bacon. That's what I would name it Alright, next idea.
The next idea. Um, so we're talking, I've been talking a lot about badges for like DEF CON. Yeah, that's what you wear around your neck and stuff. belt buckle badges.
That would be for Texas conventions. Exactly. So
have belt buckles that have LEDs that light up and stuff. And then what you do is when you walk into the convention, all you got to do is just point out your belt buckle.
Like door access things that you you can like, or you're supposed to shine your badge or flash your badge at possibly. Yeah.
That was pretty good. I was just about to
say it gets really awkward when someone has to scan it with like a barcode scanner. Scan and people's crashes
Yeah, see, that was one of the list. Yeah. Okay.
That's one of the better ones. Yeah, we got some more rapid package delivery
using cruise missiles. So Amazon's got the drone idea right. We put the package in a cruise missile at launches and just craters right in your front lawn. I like it. Yeah, you can get that you know, whatever you need on on on Amazon in like 30 seconds,
except it shows up liquefied in your,
you know, like elementary school that have the rocket competition to like launch an egg. Yeah, like, yeah, drop an egg. But yeah, yeah, drop an egg and make sure it doesn't crack on the way down. Well, you give this challenge the cruise missile challenge to these elementary schools to figure out like how not to break the egg on a cruise missile. Yeah.
In elementary school, I had the ability to work on a project with a cruise missile, I would have busted my butt I would have been up 24 hours a day working on that project.
That's how you motivate people to STEM fields.
give them access to guidance, controlled missiles, and go Alright, next next one. This one's actually not that dumb either, though, but um, I've actually done this. Uber for cables. Cables for cables for like, like, HDMI cables, USB cables. So like, if you need a cable right then and now you have an app on your phone. You go I need a cable guy drives your house lets you borrow the cable for like, 30 minutes. The guy just plays the
tone that you have. Because I think there's been like one time in my life where I needed a cable. Oh,
this is like a daily problem. See, the problem is we have so much moving parts at macro fab that, you know, some departments will come and borrow cables from the engineering department then we don't have a USB micro or a mini or this.
I probably go to like I probably buy 10 USB micro cables a month.
Yeah, they just they walk so
yeah. Wow. So I give this one by far the most profitable possible. Yeah. Maybe maybe useful too. And by the way, you should use my Amazon link when you buy all these cables. Yeah.
Okay, and then the last one I have is the rapid pizza cooler. Because sometimes cold pizza is better than hot pizza. So you get your fresh Domino's Pizza in and instead of you know how they sell like hot stones for your cook your own pizza on. Yeah, it's a cold stone.
It's like Cold Stone Creamery, but they're challenged on pizza. Yeah, on a cold so
you slap it on there and in like 30 seconds you got a fridge cold pizza. Yeah, gelatinous cheese. All all congealed together.
Yeah. Yeah. cold pizza is good.
I've gone to places where they sell the pizza by the slice. And they take it off the off the tray put in the put in the oven for like an extra two, three minutes. I asked him. Like, could you not do that? Because I would get the slice and then I'd walk around for like three minutes. But hold on. Let it cool down, right? Yeah, we were just here. Five minutes ago.
That's great. Yep. And then and then Steven had actually a stupid idea too.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I got I got one really stupid idea. You guys heard of the space elevator? Yes. Yeah, it's super cool idea. Yeah, uh, you know it's a direct the fastest way to space is directly up. If we have no way Yeah, shitting me if we have a space elevator. Why are we not talking about space escalators? I think that that's a much, much more comfortable way. The way to space
the way to go. You start at the mall, and you get given the escalator at the mall at the
mall and it just keeps
going to the airport. Yeah, maybe your Stairway to Heaven right?
I don't have to do anything. You've listened to that the entire way you go
oh my god. You'd be there for a week 11 minutes right? Yeah 11 minutes Yeah.
I like it. That's all I'm just long as you like looked at me. I'm like crazy or something.
That's a lot. That's long song.
So It's seven minutes.
I thought it was. I think it's shorter than Freebird though.
It is Freebirds 914 minutes. So
what if so, you're on this escalator. Right. Yeah. And you're playing Freebird because the longer song right, though, but when you get to the solos at the end, it just like loops the solos until you get to
oh god that never ending Freebirds Yeah, that's terrible. These are great.
Yeah. Okay, a plus ideas. All around
every one of these was a phenomenal idea.
Okay, I guess we'll go on to the RFO. Yeah, real quick. So the
idea. Yeah, go ahead, get an idea. So, I really like soft serve ice cream. Okay. And the problem with and I'm just like, all kinds of different ice cream. But the problem is, is you can only get soft serve ice cream and chocolate, vanilla. Or like a swirl.
Right? Which is just the two
Yeah, it's there's nothing difference between the two. I want a machine that does rocky road soft serve ice cream. Oh, like the Texas Two Step blue. Blue Bell.
Everyone in this room is like nodding in the head. Oh, yeah.
Why does this machine not exist?
You know, just retrofit one of those coke machines where you now select whatever flavor you want. 40 bazillion flavors. And then and then just have a tap, I guess. I don't know what they call this special. Yes. Big it. Yeah. Nice cribs. That's a fantastic idea.
That's for the beer that you can put into your ice cream. Oh, yeah. Oh, wait, they had
a Guinness tap on the side and make notes. Oh my gosh.
But why does this machine not exist? Well,
it. Trust me. Someone will listen to this. And it will exist very soon.
Let me know when you do. Yes. Listening.
Make sure to install one in Houston. Yeah.
Do you think big dairy already has this idea?
Farmers in South Dakota, huge
cows. No. This is such a good idea. Someone has had to have thought of it. I haven't
seen anything. I've done a little market research, which is it's totally against Eric and I's mentality about, like these ideas doing market research. But yeah, but I can't find anybody. You know,
it's funny. Just yesterday, I saw an advertisement in a magazine that McDonald's now is serving strawberry softserve. Like, this is a huge deal. I mean, so they've added one flavor to the two that they have now. And it's big enough to have like a full page ad in a magazine. Yeah, you know that off the end. So
ya know, yeah, that's all Yeah, McDonald's.
Bring it 1000s of flavors.
Yeah. Infinite flavors. And have you ever tasted infinity? It tastes terrible.
Do people still do that? I sure hope so.
suicides? Oh, I
guarantee I actually do I have I have a thing. Why do here in Texas is fill up your your thing with half root beer? Half Dr. Pepper. Ooh, that sounds good. It's very good. Yeah, gives it a little more. It gets that root beer bite to it.
You can call it doctor beer and SAS Barilla. Doctor beer. Yeah. It's good. Good stuff.
Alright, so now we're gonna go to our for now. picker? Keep going. Yeah,
keep talking about. And for the idea tank listeners. What is
the RFO is the rapid fire opinion. Usually we have like couple topics. And we'll see what topics are and then explain them. And everyone just goes around and says what their opinion is about it. Yeah, most of the time.
Yeah, a lot of times. It's just it's basically just news with us. Either liking it or crapping
on it. Yeah, this is this is our new segment. It's called the Kickstarter corte
Oh, that's actually way more imaginative of a name than ours.
We also have stole a ranking system and added our own twist. Oh, nice. best idea ever. Worst idea ever because it's all about sensationalist news, right? He wants it other. Kmart? Yep. Yep. Yeah, I mean, Kmart, does anybody celebrate Kmart and then it was gone and nobody nobody noticed for three years so it's yeah, it's somewhere in the middle to be a keyboard so that's the rank system we use for for Kickstarter corte, feel free to take Okay, so what
do we got? We got to our phones. We got to our first one is the social media sensation for this weak security guard robot ends it all by throwing itself into a watery grave seeing on Ars Technica, and then Google Glass 2.0 is starting the second act. And I think I found that on Wired. Okay,
was the first one like a Babylon b. Or no that
happened that actually happened? No, it was a nightscope K five security bots. Which I didn't know there were security bots. But apparently there are now I'm imagining something from like Fallout video games, but
it's happened in China somewhere over there. Right? Or was it in the Washington DC?
Really? Yeah. And yeah, basically, it's a robot that's like, it almost looks like the Doctor Who? The Daleks? Yeah, it's not as like Pimply around it. But it's the same shape. Okay. And it's a it's a robot. It's about five feet tall. 300 pounds. It kind of just roams wherever you it's like a Roomba with cameras on
it. Okay. Oh, the security side is just monitoring.
Yeah, it's basically the idea is instead of having the idea behind, I actually went and figured out why you'd want one of these things. Besides the fact that it makes hilarious news when it fucks up. Is the idea is you bait because the thing is, you need security people to walk around to patrol. Yeah, sure. Okay. And so what these do is do the patrolling and if they detect something, they let the one security officer on, on staff. They get notified and they can act on whatever's happening.
We just pulled up a picture of it. It's it's very lost in space. Kind of Yes. Look, yeah. interest that's nerdy. That yeah, that's incredibly.
Yeah. And so the the problem with just cameras, is security. People don't look at cameras, they just fall asleep. It's the typical thing. They just fall asleep in the, you know, security booth and, you know, someone breaks in and no one notices. Whereas these have like sensors thing figured out, you know, oh, a person's not supposed to be here and I detect the person. Let the security team know that stuff. And it's probably more imposing than a security camera just bolted to the wall. If you see this 300 pound five foot tall robot come barreling after you down the hallway. You'd run Yeah. Hall Pass hall pass.
Yeah, so what happened to this
one? They don't know what happened to it. It just fell into basically the fountain that's at the mall.
So it didn't like email. It's its view on humanity. And I'm, you know, tonight it ends. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
I don't want to live anymore.
So disappointed about like, the politics happened in Washington, DC that just went into the
Yeah, but how great would it be if it was like on a second story, and like, went through the banister? tumble down there.
It was probably just it's one of its sensors probably failed. And it just into the pool. Yeah. That's not as exciting though. Yeah. But comical. So yeah. What do you all think about my talking about this robot falling? You know, what do you all think about security? Robots?
security robots? Yeah. I mean, when you think through the artificial intelligence stuff, it's pretty hard to escape that, that at least the thought process that they're going to take over. Because like machine learning and stuff and stuff like that. So a quote from a robotics engineer at NASA, there was a robot that could that could scan and pick out different people. And once it you could program to say, Alright, stay on you. And it would stay and track you tracking. I said, that's scary. And he says, Yeah, it'd be even scary when it's holding a gun. Mm hmm. So it's, it's hard.
Well, because currently, these robots can't do anything besides Blair sirens and notified the booth. Sure. Yeah, sure. Whatever. It's, uh, you know, I'm
with Eric on this one. Robocop? Just gonna wait till these things get guns. Yeah. And
and wait till their sensor fail.
And yeah. And there's a network that connects them all. And they have all over the sky. Yeah, over this guy.
And this guy. This guy.
Scott, you're coming with me dead or alive? Yeah, yes.
Wait, that was 1997 We're so for 20 years past Skynet.
Yeah, so I mean, love it. Right. Love the Roomba. I love everything about it. I think we all love it until it ends up at Skynet. Yeah, Stephen. As of
right now, to see a hilarious robot kind of roaming around.
I'm fine with it. I think I would like to geek out over if I saw in like a place here in Houston. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I might put a macro fab bumper sticker on it. Okay, so topic two, Google Glass 2.0. So, Google killed off Google Glass, because people were one not buying it. And two, you looked really silly wearing them. Yeah. Yeah. And so what's happening is they basically reconfigured everything and stuck them on safety glasses. And so they're gearing it up to be more industrial, which is kind of where I thought, long time ago, I guess augmented reality would go for, like, you know, putting together an engine or putting together or doing inventory, stuff like that.
Yeah. What if What if you could look into the glass and you know, you have two parts that need to go together? And it could show you how it goes together? In real time as you're looking at it? Yep. If he gave you blueprints and exploded diagrams, just amazing in front of your eye. That's cool.
There's a VR training company near the place a place where I work. And that's it. You put them in a scenario, you're putting them in a scenario. Yeah. That's even the next level there's take their training from VR to augmented reality. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Originally.
I'm gonna hold off on this idea. I it's kind of cool. But I'm waiting for the Tony Stark. What's his? What's his thing? Oh, Jarvis.
Jarvis. Jarvis. AI that. Yeah, it's an AI that augments to human
exit. Yeah, I'm waiting for that. I think that would be incredible. Yeah,
take baby steps. Yeah, we got to move towards I
think the biggest thing is, if you could have it, and it could remember where your remote or your phone was at 90, the biggest thing like usually, you know, where's my my phone at and like, showed an arrow and your field of vision of a cold for your phone? That's great. I think it's really cool. It's, it's, that's actually something I really want to play around with is augmented reality for manufacturing.
So this one is just for like industrial use. Yeah. Basically, it's everybody.
Right? Yeah. It's it's it the main thing about it is it's environments that you normally have to work a lot safety glasses in. So it's not, it's not an extra burden on the user to use.
Think of like, a inventory management guy, if he could just like look up on a shelf, see a box, and it would say what's inside that box and the quantity, you know, without having to pick, take it down and count.
And that kind of stuff is cool. And I actually think that's part of the reason I was talking about earlier about the burden on the user is why more people more people don't wear watches anymore. Compared to your phone, because your phone just goes in your pocket. Right? So you don't have to worry about it. You don't have to put it on, you know? Yeah. And actually, is anyone in this room wearing a watch? We got one one person we're in Watch out of six people. Yeah. Seven people. So it used to be everyone will watch us. So yeah, I just think he's just that's just one less thing you have to worry about.
I think it's super cool.
Google Glass went from worst idea ever. To best idea ever. Yes. Never in Kmart.
A cool I guess that's gonna wrap up this episode, right? Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, we got one Kickstarter if you wanna hear about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the Kickstarter court.
Like theme music that's supposed to be going on now.
No. Great idea. You want to sing something? Doo doo
doo doo doo. I will use that every single time.
Okay, so I found on Kickstarter. A wearable. And what it does is you guys ever grind your teeth at night? i Yes. Or wake up with sore sore gums. Or notice that your your jaws popping because there's too much tension in it. I guess you call suffer from this and it'll mess you up it it it it's a sign of distress overall in yourself. So this company is making a wearable that goes over your ear and it can sense the tension in your jaw. And then it says it gives you a making air quotes feedback to let you know that your jaw is clenched. So even if it made a little noise or eventually shocked you I'd be fine with it. Because
if you just give it a little muscle stimulation,
I'm not sure what it does to be honest the presentation on the video worst video ever took me if I if I didn't have jaw pain while watching it. I wouldn't have kept on watching because they just didn't tell you what it was until until way way into the into the video. So the basic that's that's that's it basically you wear it. It knows when your jaws to clench it makes a graft To let you know your stress level over the really tension level over the day, and then it can give you feedback just to remind you, because when I remind myself and I realized that I'm all clenched up a couple deep breaths, and you can use that feel it go away, he goes, it goes away. So the reminder would be would be quite nice.
Yeah. That's a that's an interesting, how much is the device for? How much does it cost?
It's at the Kickstarter level. So I'm not sure. And, again, worst presentation ever. If you're hearing I'm not sorry, like, fix it, because your product is excellent. But the presentation is terrible. So I don't even know the price.
Do you remember what the name was? So my, the front, four teeth on my top jaw are all fake, because I ground the living bejesus out of them during the night.
That's great. Yeah, yeah.
No, they're all they're all made of a really hard porcelain now, which I can't, I can't grind. And actually, what the dentist told me is, my body would learn that I can't grind my teeth because there's so much harder now. And so I stopped grinding my teeth because it just couldn't do it. No way. So yeah, it's funny, like it's a brute force fix. And it cost a ton of money, but it worked.
I don't have the name. I can. I can tweet it to you guys. Cool. Oh, well, we'll have to look that up. Unfortunately, I say best idea ever. But judging by the execution of the Kickstarter, I'm not sure if they're gonna make it to actual wearable product.
Interesting. Well, to keep track of that.
You're part right.
I'm at Kmart on this. I don't I don't have feelings one way or another? Because I'm not your target market for this. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I don't have those the problem,
but you may not know that you have those problems?
Yeah. Is there? Is there a technology out there that lets me know if I'm doing this? Pain?
Your pain in your jaw? Yeah.
If I wake up and my teeth are grinding away,
I think I think this is one of those situations where if it's a problem, you would know
Yeah. RX relief brex relief. Brux relief.
Okay. Iris just looked it up. Maybe Brux relief? Well, we'll look it up.
That's true. That's a bad name as well. I'm know if you just said that name. I have no idea what that product does.
gratify. That's what it should be. Yeah.
So it's same, same true as when Google came out. What what does Google mean? Well, Google isn't nowadays Google search for something. It's like Xerox
when it came out. I mean, Google was a word. I mean, yeah. Google is very, very a Google is what 10 to 100
That's how much money they make now.
Yeah, I don't Okay, so we're looking at one I don't think it's it. So it looks like this competition. Which should be good for us. Bad bad for that Kickstarter. Oh,
okay. This competition says only $59 Oh, yeah, it's worth it. Yeah, for sure.
So you guys think what's your rating? You're in the court. You're the judge.
It's not my target market. So
so worst idea ever. Kmart Kmart? So, I'm gonna go with for me now it's Kmart. Only because I've spent so much money on my teeth that I don't want to think of. I'm ending more diamonds. Yeah, I'm just gonna grill there were
what from Futurama? diammonium Dymo. More diamond. Delerium.
I love that. That's it for us.
Yeah, yeah, I guess we're done now. I
think that's good.
That's a good Kickstarter court. Yeah, yeah. They're good.
So that was the macro engineering podcast. We are your hosts Parker Dolman
and Steven Craig.
Air Ben's on offer. And Scott Hanson from the idea tank podcast.
I guess was a sign off then. Yeah. Let everyone take it easy. See ya.
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