MacroFab Engineering Podcast #255
MacroFab Engineering Podcast #255
Will the Rebel Codebreakers be able to emerge victorious against the Empire, or will they succumb to the overwhelming power of the Empire? Tune in!
Topics include StarWars, NASA, Magnets, Perpetual Energy, and Virtual Grounding.
Did Stephen and Parker complete there holiday projects as mentioned in last weeks episode or will they slip further behind with feature creep?
Parker
Stephen
Parker is an Electrical Engineer with backgrounds in Embedded System Design and Digital Signal Processing. He got his start in 2005 by hacking Nintendo consoles into portable gaming units. The following year he designed and produced an Atari 2600 video mod to allow the Atari to display a crisp, RF fuzz free picture on newer TVs. Over a thousand Atari video mods where produced by Parker from 2006 to 2011 and the mod is still made by other enthusiasts in the Atari community.
In 2006, Parker enrolled at The University of Texas at Austin as a Petroleum Engineer. After realizing electronics was his passion he switched majors in 2007 to Electrical and Computer Engineering. Following his previous background in making the Atari 2600 video mod, Parker decided to take more board layout classes and circuit design classes. Other areas of study include robotics, microcontroller theory and design, FPGA development with VHDL and Verilog, and image and signal processing with DSPs. In 2010, Parker won a Ti sponsored Launchpad programming and design contest that was held by the IEEE CS chapter at the University. Parker graduated with a BS in Electrical and Computer Engineering in the Spring of 2012.
In the Summer of 2012, Parker was hired on as an Electrical Engineer at Dynamic Perception to design and prototype new electronic products. Here, Parker learned about full product development cycles and honed his board layout skills. Seeing the difficulties in managing operations and FCC/CE compliance testing, Parker thought there had to be a better way for small electronic companies to get their product out in customer's hands.
Parker also runs the blog, longhornengineer.com, where he posts his personal projects, technical guides, and appnotes about board layout design and components.
Stephen Kraig began his electronics career by building musical oriented circuits in 2003. Stephen is an avid guitar player and, in his down time, manufactures audio electronics including guitar amplifiers, pedals, and pro audio gear. Stephen graduated with a BS in Electrical Engineering from Texas A&M University.
Special thanks to whixr over at Tymkrs for the intro and outro!
Welcome to the fifth annual macro fab Star Wars Christmas special podcast. I'm your guest, Josh Rocher.
And we're your hosts, Parker, Dolman.
And Steven Greg,
this is episode 200 fraud. Well, we finally made it. We made it. Every episode that we do that we made it.
I just want to say your your intro is a little wordy.
That that was the that was a string.
Lot of words to cram in
there. Everyone's heard me screw up BIOS over and over and over. Like, I feel your pain on that. Okay.
So this is the time of the year where we get to talk about Star Wars, on our podcast. Everything is right with the world. For the next hour or so. I was wondering where you're going with that.
joke about this is like, this is like the US podcast. This is like the our podcasts and like every podcast is the US.
This time it does fall on the 255 which is a kind of a landmark number for us electrical engineers. Yeah,
but you can no longer count to our episodes with eight bits.
Yeah. The interesting thing is going to be Jesus. This is the fifth time we've done a Star Wars Episode and no one's told us to stop yet.
Yeah, and I think this is what the fourth time I've been on it. Nobody's told you to kick me off. Yeah, this
has been on five episodes total now or something?
Yeah, it sounds about right. Yeah.
So whenever we need good goofy commentary, we know who to call.
What's interesting. Roz is your transformer episode is like the number one downloaded episode. That's scary. I think it's almost like 6000 downloads should
not be listening to me. Tell them about transformers. There's way more qualified people out there. Yeah. And
we'll find them and bring them on.
Yeah, right. But I mean, that is interesting. That was a it was a fun episode. It's been a while.
But there's been transformers since then, too.
Yeah. Yeah. You and I have used some of them like you wired one up to an amp.
I actually have it sitting on the shelf over here just just chillin. And it didn't
burn his house down. So
yeah, yeah. Well certified by Roz
little looks good to me. RL Raz license. Like that. So cool. So let's go ahead and kick this off and talk about what's happened since last will the fourth annual one which was last year, which is Mandalorian. Season two. So this will be spoilers up to chapter seven. Which is for some reason night season two, they call them chapters. I'm pretty sure season one they just called episodes.
Hang on. I might be getting my dates off. Had episode or had the ninth movie come out last time. Yeah, it had okay. And we Oh, that's right. Okay.
Hi. Hi. Ron was on he was talking about Babu frik.
That's right. It had just come out. Yeah. Okay. Right. So yeah.
That week. Yeah, we forced everyone that was on the podcast to watch it. With their eyes like peeled open. And the theater. Back when we could go into theaters. Yeah.
The world is so different. Yes. Actually, there is. They are saying that there were COVID positive cases this time last year.
Oh, it shows they they Okay, get this article I read said that. They actually went into blood banks and started testing blood samples. And they found COVID antibodies in blood samples that were donated as early as December.
Okay, so actually, that can
be November than
it was in the country way before we were aware of it.
So that's why why the lot was the 1920 winter
flu was talking about the Spanish flu and 1818
No, it was just like what 2019 And 2020 flu season was really bad.
Oh, right, right. Yeah, yeah, kicked. We were actually sick this time. My whole family. We were sick. I still maintain that it was the Coronavirus but Kim she says Oh, well. We got positive flu tests like um, don't give me those details. It was Coronavirus. We were sick with Coronavirus Okay. But mystery remains unsolved. So
yeah man manda season two.
Yeah, I was actually about to say is they don't they don't really talk about sickness or disease and Star Wars, but I guess that wouldn't be super interesting to
watch mando throw up, hold up.
spills out the bottom I could never take you just here. False. Jesus, that's a mental image. Yeah, there you go.
And he's like, I got to go to the bathroom to wipe my helmet
out. Will you excuse me for a second?
You know, okay, so So the Mandalorian is never supposed to take his mask off. Right? There's been two situations where he has but spoiler alert.
Yeah, he's about to say is what I got almost got there. read chapter seven, because that's what's come out. So spoilers for everything from Mandos. Seven is the only thing that's left is chapter eight, right, which Stephen has told me right before we start recording is the last episode or chapter of season two, which I'm like, Oh, no. My world is about to crash. It
could be a void in your life. Every Friday night for the next foreseeable future. So
yeah, I think every Friday now I just gotta roll like D 20. Dice and pretend I'm DMing Star Wars.
So okay. What I was what I was getting there for a quick second one I spoiled mando he so I've always wondered, like, does he have like a soda on the side with a straw in it and just kind of like, shoves it up there and or or is it? Or is it goofy like in Spaceballs with dark helmet when he puts the coffee up to his helmet and just keep firing through the or there's like a Subway sandwich that just goes up in the mask and disappears.
They actually a couple of episodes back they actually showed him eat or drink Actually, no, he like, tilt. Yeah, he like, drops it back down. So that I guess that begs the question, what percentage of his face is he allowed to show because I mean, technically, that was his mouth. So that's like, you know, at least 20% of his face. You got to see so
well, that was the whole point with Chapter Seven was Is he allowed to show his face? Or is it not taking the helmet off? Which is two different things.
What if his helmet gets blown? Like in half? Like his visor gets all jacked up? I mean, is he
he's he's in that much bigger problem than protecting his helmet. No doubt.
Yeah, he would be like in a world of hurt but like is he excommunicated? loses his helmet and battle or something. He
didn't take his helmet off.
He seems to be a man of the moment where it's like whatever needs to happen right now is
geodict Good. He's chaotic. Good. Yeah. He was lawful good. And he's slowly making the transition. Well, I would say he's lawful neutral. And he's slowly making the transition to lawful chaotic good. I wouldn't
because that isn't alignment.
Yeah, yeah. The especially when when in the very first episode he's very lawful neutral before he meets the child or anything like that. He's just like, I do what I do.
Right? I get the the chain and I go track down the guy on the other end of it
and yeah, my job is bringing this person in Dead or Alive that means dead or alive. Yep. I'm just having flashbacks to that first episode warmer season one first episode was amazing. I
like the fact that they had a we talked about this last last year. Like the for a Disney show. And like a dude get chopped in half and the first step was buying the door.
Since the tone, doesn't it?
Yeah, I was like, I guess we're doing it PG 13 I guess. Like kids watch it share with me. Horrible your there is no blood, which is partly how they get away with it. A lot of it.
And all the curse words are like galactic curse words. So they don't really count me.
Like, what was it that they said in Battlestar Galactica? They say FARC or something like that all the time? No, no. Okay. It was something like that.
Yeah, it's something like that. But yeah, it was definitely to get around censorship and still allow like curse words, right to
meet up word. Yep. The UNFCC
bi. That was actually the whole thing with chapter seven, which was, I do think chapter seven. The one that came out is like the best Prasanna mando so far.
Yeah. I like the fact that Bill Burr was in it again.
Yeah. Bill burrs back in
space Boston.
Yeah. And it's funny because Bill Burr is just playing bill burr the entire time. Like, he's just himself. Even that whole, like monologue where he's like breeding mando when they're driving that, what do they call them?
The caterpillar Colossus or whatever.
I don't remember what they were called. But
the tanks have started with a tea.
Yeah, and if you sneeze on it and explode,
Yeah, apparently you go over 85 miles an hour. Yeah,
you go back to die.
Yeah, you go slow. And what was crazy about that, though, is like they had a whole show done that really awesome topic for this podcast. But like, they had a little gauge on the dash. That was like, how it's ready. He was about to explode. I'm like, how would you figure that out? No, no, that's a good point. Yeah, like maybe
sensors on nitroglycerin or something? Yeah,
I guess if it was pressure base, you could have a pressure sensor and like, it's like shaking up or soda, right?
What's it like? Re condenses back into liquid after long enough? Yeah.
That's actually that's actually what acetylene is, like. A suddenly is in acetone. Is it the is Yeah, acetylene gases in acetone. And then it diffuses out in a sponge inside your tank. It's really crazy to think about that could have been like, it couldn't be like that, where it goes back into solution. And then jostling around and having thermal detonators go off near it, kind of jostle it around a bit and shake it up.
So you know, actually, that's that's kind of funny, because so they have these big like, I don't know, trucks that they don't they don't have like tank treads or anything like that. There's still like pneumatic tires on the side of it. And they're driving these things pretty damn fast over generally rough terrain. But it's the Star Wars universe. They have, like, everything can hover and can like, go like really smooth and slow.
You freaking Jabba the Hutt had a whole barge that just floated around like it. Yeah,
exactly. A building is a building that hovered around and they could an empire I guess it's the remnants of Empire the Empire doesn't have big hover tractor trailers. So
take trips
10 safer trips as opposed to like, super explosive
you sent 10 trucks and only one made it through that day or you have to take 10 trips and alter and make it I'll take the 10 trips I don't know about you
especially because they were talking about the material that's inside of it and they're like this is gonna change everything you know, this is enough.
Oh, like one one watt tractor trailer full of it was like enough to like could swing the balance of the the war or something. I never really explained what it was
for either, did they? It's not something a gas because that's what the fuel for Star Destroyers it
was right for everything. Right. So,
you know, lightsabers are sorry, what's the name of the Chris kyber crystals are what powers the Death Star laser gun bait. What is it? Like? Is it like explosive
is I'm actually looking to see what the blaster
rifle ammunition or something blaster
rifle ammunition we actually talked about that in the very first Star Wars. Yeah, it's not from best when they mined the gas on best but that's what Cloud City in Tibet? Yes. Yeah. Right. Yeah, so I this stuff that it started with an AR didn't.
I'm looking at right now.
Knowledge of the university fingertips and we're looking at educational
while you guys are looking it up. I'm gonna mention. Parker and rosin, I have have said this to each other multiple times. But one of the best parts about the Mandalorian as a whole is that it's set up very similar to an RPG, or just a video game where it's like, the Mandalorian shows up and there's a scenario and these scenarios are like you can do this and you can't do this but you need to accomplish this. And then he goes and does it and then 30 minutes to an hour like you're like oh this is great. And and it's it's a serial show. So there's like a beginning and an end to every episode and there's like conflict and resolution and it just I don't know it's awesome because of that. Ride. Don't Ium ride only and that's what it is.
Right? I'd never heard of before. I don't know if it's an actual new thing. It's in a course it's in Legends.
Not the word. Canon.
I was about to say could be on Wikipedia.
So I looked up right where right Odium is from. Okay. Right. duniya volatile type fuel.
So it's a fuel.
It's just gasoline.
Gasoline man. guzzling? Yeah. Well, I, I like, I think I said this last year, what I liked the most about Mandalorian is not just that I just liked the fact that it's it's trying not to invent new things in the universe of Star Wars. And it's utilizing the pieces that already exist. Which I really like.
Yeah, I mean, it's okay with making you wait a season and a half to develop a character, you know,
like, yeah, instead of doing it in like five minutes, right? Or just
doing it and then telling you it's done. Like, hey, guess what you should like this character. Because we said so like, Okay, you're making us watch how he's developing watch how he's having to face these moral dilemmas of okay, do I turn the child in? And risk my entire existence, essentially, my livelihood and my identity? Or do I listen to my conscience? And, you know, protect this kid from the evil, you know, Nazi emperor, Imperial officer guy? But I don't know, I think it's interesting. Because, you know, for that reason, you're hooked on it every week, because you never know, like, what's going to pop up? And then the next episode that mando is gonna have to tackle. I mean, he's this last episode, he, he spent half the episode with his with his helmet off, which is in front of other people, which is like a big no, no, right? So you're seeing him develop into a different UI.
He did not know how to react at all though. Like, he went from like, like, at the very beginning of Mandalorian. He's doesn't really know how to interact with other people besides like, go capture people and get credits. That's like his social function. And then up until, like this point, he actually knows how to like, interact with other people and get other people to do things for him, that kind of stuff and negotiate deals. And then he takes his helmet off, and he's reverted right back to like, absolute Juana mando. He doesn't know anything he would like to add socially. Like he has like, no emotion besides just like utter like, I don't know, like, almost like fear on his face the entire time. Yeah,
well, but here's the thing, if no one has ever seen your face, then the only thing they can gauge your emotion off of is just basically the tone of your voice and the movements of your body. And humans gauge a lot from looking at other people's eye movements, their face movements, everything. And so like, he would be super awkward, right?
Oh, yeah. Cuz he doesn't know how to express his face at all.
Exactly. And I think they portrayed that really well. The actor did. Yeah,
I do. Like how bill burr is like, yeah, he can't hear anything. Yeah. Actually played out pretty well.
For them. Once again, that's a super RPG thing where like, someone will be like, I have to get out of this situation. How do I do it? Roll for bluff? Yeah.
Yeah. This season has been so good. Yeah, like, was it early? I'm talking a lot about the most recent episode but like, at the very beginning, talking about like living in the universe, because they're on that like, junk planet where they had to get doper from out of chains. Oh, yeah. And there's like 8080s had been repurposed into junk robots, like junk junk crawlers, it's Oh, that's so cool. They don't have to this is the thing they don't have to reinvent anything for this series. No.
No, they've added some like unique monsters and stuff like that, like the the first time that mando and the child or mando sees the child use the Force. I think it's episode two or three. They're in there right now. And then and then in in season two, they have to find that like giant dragon thing that comes out of the ground with the sand crawlers who are looking for like the dragon pearl or whatnot on the inside. And those are cool because they're like extra flavor to something that to a world that already exists that they don't have to recreate.
Oh man, I think it was this season was the season where he helped mando helps out the sand jaw was and they they get the eggs Was it season one season one yeah where you just hit Open he spends like an entire two episodes trying to get these eggs for the jaw was and the jaw was like straight up split it open with the with an axe and start right in front of them
yeah it was interesting episode because like the whole bill burr characters is kind of funny to me because Bill Burr was like a huge like he would mock people who were Star Wars fans. Like he thought it was like what do you call it like a self help story in space with Muppets. I think it's something something along those lines. And there's actually he talks about it, you know, on other people's YouTubes and podcasts and whatnot about how he kind of renounced his anti star wars beliefs and became a convert now one of the most popular characters you know, probably in the old galaxy so
that's great. Well, we have nothing else to add about mando said if you're are still listening to this, and have not watched it, go watch it get Disney plus it's what $6 Something like that. $7
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Mickey Mouse has handed us a couple of dollar bills. table right now. Thanks, guys. Okay, so my, my personal favorite section of the annual McWrap Sowers Christmas special podcast is where we get to talk about weird technology stuff and try to explain them in normal math and engineering terms.
explain our way through them.
Yeah, explain our way through them. And so I'm going to start with space trash and Star Wars.
So like Han Solo, or
actually, space trash is a big part of Star Wars.
It is especially Empire strike back. But what brought this up was recently the ESA, which is the European Space Agency, which is a real life agency on Earth conditions the world first space debris removal, I guess program using an emissions called clear space one, which will launch in 2025. And it's basically a like a satellite with a bunch of grabber arms. Waste Management. Yeah. So it will, it will grab stuff junk in space, and then deorbit them is the plan.
It's not a garbage satellite. It's a sanitation machine. Yeah, sanitation satellite.
So the US is focused on sending people to Mars and back to the moon and they're focused on picking up trash.
Someone's got to do it. Oh,
how polluted is space? Yeah,
that's a good question.
So let me I was looking up like I was going to bring this up, but so like our entire solar system in the current universe that we know of, is point like 20 zeros 9% of the total space of the Milky Way. Just the Milky Way, just the Milky Way of our solar system is like point 00 9% of the entire Milky Way our solar system is so not a lot of space. But you get into problems like the was it the Kessler syndrome is that as what's called sounds legit,
let's go with that. Yeah, sure.
I was like Kessler syndrome. So Kessler syndrome is like you have a bunch of satellites and then like one satellite, like accidentally bumps another one out of orbit. And then that one bumps to out of orbit and then it just cascades into a big cloud of trash satellite vision that yes rock very similar.
It's like that seen in Wally when they leave the planet and they have to like blast through a shell of sad plates.
No, that's actually exactly what it is. And the main problem is because you're, you're that trash is orbiting Earth that at many, many times the speed of where you're going and so it hits you and causes because it bad cannot energy damage
so Wood Street patients man that's not vitality yes
straight towards critical hit right? Wood space trash be a concern for the galaxy far, far away is my question. Because we know that the Empire doesn't really care too much about space trash, because they just jettison it all the time and Star Wars, like, like the entirety beginning of Empire Strikes Back is about like hiding in garbage. All right. So like hiding in a trash compactor? No trash compactor is
new. That's a new hope. Yeah, new hope.
But like the whole Millennium Falcon is hiding in the space trash, and then going into the asteroid field and that kind of stuff. So we can think about it as if this is merely the case of the universe is technically infinite. So technically, you have infinite space to dump garbage, then yeah, totally. You don't have to worry about it. Right? You can just dump the garbage and doesn't matter. The problem is, you people aren't equally distributed around, like, infinitely, right? So people are in clusters, like you have planets like Corizon, which is like, you know, the most populous planet and Star Wars. And so you get a this trash starts to collecting in certain areas, especially around planets, that kind of stuff. But it could be like, if you just jettison your trash could just collect somewhere. Like how it doesn't on Earth. It collects in like giant floating islands and like, oh,
like, oh, well, last planet, you have like, a trash planet floating around space? Yeah,
I'm pretty sure. God, this is a long time ago. But the Transformers Animated Movie has a whole trash planet where they like the Autobots get all destroyed, and they have to like, I don't know, they're flying around. And they come across on that across that trash planet. And of course, it's transformers. So like, the trash just comes together and makes other robots and stuff. It's freaking great. If you haven't seen it.
There is also an episode of Futurama like this where they launch a trash ball into orbit or into like the solar system just to get rid of it ends up coming back. It's like a trash comet. Trash comets.
So no, did you guys hear about recently, scientists were tracking something in space. And they're like, oh, it's an it's an asteroid, or some kind of unknown celestial body that's hurtling towards Earth. And it's gonna pass within a few 1000 miles of our atmosphere. And they had no clue what it was. And then once it started getting closer, they finally figured out it was like a rocket body that had been launched in 1965 is on like, some huge orbit around this around this sun
is a comment.
We lost it for like 50 years. Just kind of pass it back by and it's gonna go back into the oblivion for another.
It's kind of hammer and sickle on it.
No, it's an American rocket.
It was American, right? Yeah,
I don't remember the mission that you know, is like some satellite launch mission or something. But out back in the 60s, but
But um, reality or life imitating art, I suppose. Yeah. So if you're, if you're like, the Empire and just dumping your garbage around, in like, just what like, let's say you It's standard procedure to dump your garbage and then jump to hyperspace. And you're doing it near course on and that's where you're going to get the Kessler syndrome, right? Because that's there's a lot of traffic there of ships moving in and out, dump and trash.
So what if, sorry, were you done with your point? And I mean, it cut you Oh, go ahead. But I will if you want me to. What if the whole reason that the calculations, the jump to lightspeed are so complicated, because if you think about it, you know, where you are in relation to other planets, other stars, right, it should be actually pretty easy to know, to plot a course through that. If all those bodies
you know, they're predictable,
were predictable.
Everything is so spaced apart in space that you can point any direction and you'll rate your direction you're not going to hit something right. So
I guess my question is, is what if the reason doing the calculations for the jump at lightspeed are so complicated is because those computers are actually identifying objects that are small enough to damage your ships? Yeah, that track and calculating the trajectory so that you squealing through them or something? Yeah, and maybe there's like some There's some network like around the galaxy that identifies
what's NASA's NASA's got a network called NASA tracking of small items.
Hey, hey, I've got it. Here's another wrinkle to it. This sort of like retcon solo the movie just a little bit. But what if the reason why the Kessel Run was so difficult was because it was just a coal, a bunch of trash coal coalesced together, and you had to navigate a bunch of trash. So
the Kessel Run was the Kessler syndrome happened around that planet. Right,
exactly.
So that was the trash planet. Right? Yeah, right there. So
unfortunately, you have to dodge X amount of trash within one parsec. Right. And that is that is how they get that unit of measurement. And the Millennium Falcon is incredibly good at it.
It's genius. I just, I'm at a loss for words, I think.
So, I've always I've
always thought that okay, so people always complain because they they said, run in less than 12 parsecs and less than 12 parsecs. Right. Okay. So, that could still be true because, okay. parsec is a measurement of
distance. Right? Right. And we talked about this on second one or third.
We made actually, I think I made the same argument. But like, if you have to do a certain amount of things within a certain distance, then that still impressive, right? So if it's harder to do things within 12 parsecs, but it's easier within 20 parsecs or something like that, then like it's still impressive for him to say that. So if you have to dodge this amount of trash within 12 parsecs, it's like, whoa, that's actually pretty cool.
That's, that makes sense. Actually,
my favorite thing about the whole thought 12 parsecs thing is like Obi Wan, and Luke are like, look at him and like what the fuck, you know, give me the Kessel run at 12 parsecs. And like, everyone else looks at him. Like what the fuck, you
know, here's the thing. They're an average purchaser. They just asked, Can you get me there? And this guy is trying to like, puff himself up and they're like, okay, but can you still get me there?
I guess that's true. It's like if someone like your Uber showed up and you're like, and they get to the airport pretty quickly, and you go and the guy goes, this thing's got 900 horsepower. It's like, you still gotta go to speed limit. Right to give me that airport.
Yeah, no, no, Solo was totally flexing. And it didn't know.
I guess it did work. In the end.
He got aid right? Yeah, paid.
What option though? Would would Luke and Obi Wan have at that point, though,
kill him and take his ship
to do what I would have done the chaotic evil and you so back in legends, and Star Wars, that how they handled space trash was the squibs. And y'all will you'll to over know this from our d&d campaign. But the squibs are a furry blue creature, race of aliens and the Star Wars universe and stuff they have their trash collectors are scavengers of the use of the Star Wars universe or galaxy. I guess it's the galaxy. It's not a universe because yeah, yeah. They never leave their their Galaxy. And the Imperials provide the Squibb salvage vessels with coordinates of where they're going to dump stuff. And so basically, like they leave and then like, they show up later, and like collect all the garbage. That doesn't happen in The Empire Strikes Back, does it?
I wonder, I wonder if they are just scavenging or if they're actually collecting, like getting rid of it. Probably scavenging. The
primary scavenging selling it off that kind of stuff. Yeah. And when empires trashes and other creatures treasure, I suppose. Yep.
Isn't there a isn't there a new little firefly about this? I think they do something like that in Firefly where they go. No, I think they actually I'm sorry. I think they find like a wrecked ship that's out there. And then they go and scavenge it. But similar.
I do like Roz's explanation of like hyperspace calculations, and making sure you don't pop out into like, a dumpster or trash have started shorter. I do like that explanation a lot. Because then they could like, I know NASA, I couldn't find the name of it. But NASA's got a where they track items under a certain size. That's like what it's designed to do. Like, certainly, like, like one of them's like the glove from like, one of the Mercury missions. The astronaut like lost his glove. And they have that tracking because it's like it just orbits the Earth right forever. We'll probably orbits Earth forever.
Oh, it'll eventually fall in.
I think it's high enough up where won't degrade?
No, I think I think eventually it will. Yeah, they all have to get like a boost every once in awhile because they do slow down. Someone's up there
like pushing the glove. Yeah, it's just
as they say enormous growth.
But I can't remember what they're called. But there could be a Star Wars version of that. That is where you're getting your hyperspace data
from. Right? And let's say it's, let's see, it's like, it's like peer to peer like, like, like, I don't know. Essentially, you pass the exam. Yeah. Or I don't maybe peer to peer. Maybe it's more like a more like blockchain or Limewire, you know, Limewire Kazem there because I think it's bizarre because, yeah. Oh, yeah. All those scomi progress on
k z EY. That's still around.
I think everything's gone like torrent. Now.
The last stable release was for Khazar was November 26 2006. So no, no,
I probably download
that and letting that thing open to any open i instant, instant virus cell in
your computer just explodes on your desktop. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah. What if it's like, you know, let's say I'm flying by a piece of trash and space, my computer identifies it logs, it marks it and then blast it out. Like Like, like, like blockchain or something. Because I don't really understand blockchain. So let's see if
I saw Bitcoin.
Blockchain space trash. Yeah, that's your that's your million dollar idea on the on the microwave engineer podcast right there.
Actually. There's apps that you can get for your phone where you can basically as you're driving by a gas station, why you shouldn't do this while you're driving? You park your car. And then you say how much the gas was at that gas station? Oh, yeah. And it like it's a it's a peer network aggregate of all the gas station prices and things like that. Oh, here's a pig on the side of the road. Yeah, sure. But same same kind of thing where you pull out your phone while you're flying by some trash. I found some trash out here.
make so many jokes right now. But I can just imagine, like the damage that like a bottle cap would do to your ship if you're traveling faster than the speed of light. Now I know we've talked about this before, like, are you actually traveling through that space? Like I don't understand. I'm not an astrophysicist and I don't even pretend. Right? So like, right, like, are you actually tunneling through space but but the point is, is like a grain of sand or a bottle cap or like a piece of paper at multiple times the speed of light. What would happen to your ship? So
what a few like because they're just talking about like, like the Star Destroyers are disposing of waste, right, right. Is it human waste as well. I would just like you can have like a go in hyperspace into a turd?
Yeah, I think I think the answer is yes.
And here's the frozen Stormtrooper turd. Now in space.
I have I have some evidence to about this. If you go to star wars.com, they actually talk about this. They talk about there's there's a quick little thing. In fact, I'll give you guys the link here. But it is it is their description of hyperdrive. It says hyperdrive allows starships to travel faster than the speed of light so that it's they're confirming it fashion the speed of light crossing space through the alternate dimension of hyperspace space and there's hyperspace, and you go into hyperspace go faster than the speed of light and then pop out. And the next sentence says, large objects in normal space cast mass shadows into hyperspace. So hyperspace jumps must be precisely calculated to avoid collisions. So you're, you're avoiding collision with the shadow of the turd in hyperspace.
So we need to take a massive
turn.
Neil deGrasse Tyson to try and explain to me what the hell that really means in like real terms. is like, shadows of gravity. Fucking
Pluto's not a planet. Yeah, that's bullshit.
Pluto is come on guys. That's very funny NASA Yeah, but anyways, hyperspace Yay. Cool, so So does that mean? Well, I gotta, I'm gonna have to sleep on this. I'll get back with you guys.
Is hyperspace, something that is visible, or is hyperspace just filled with matte shadows.
And so if it's an alternate dimension like a shadow of, let's say the mass of a piece of random garbage does it translate like one to one? Like, does gravity work the same way as mass? The same? Like I don't understand
a single dimension and you're traveling in straight lines on a plane,
right? Are you like between dimensions? So you're not actually in one or the other? I don't know. I don't it sounds like you need to, like eat some mushrooms and talk about
did you talk about this was on hyperspace, but they talked about hyperspace madness. Where like, you stare out into the void and the void answers back. Oh, that's that's way back in Legend so So by way for those that don't know, you have canon wherever since Disney bought Star Wars you have what's called canon which is what Disney says is legit and Star Wars. And then you have legends which is everything that used to be canon Star Wars. Yeah, basically
it was their free free license to throw everything out and write whatever stories they wanted and then be like I we said it was legends. Like don't don't come back, you know, so
so. Yeah, so Legends is hyperspace madness is a thing where like the void answers back and causes people to go insane. Whereas, like, Anakin Skywalker or Darth Vader spoiler alert, by the way, for what what? 2003 Jesus he would stare out on the bridge of Star Destroyers into the void. He is the browser's he is the
voice because he's an evil bastard though.
Well, he's got some light in him. Spoiler alert for episode six
episode six was like 87 it was earlier it's like 83/4
episode so three I think 78 was episode 477 77 You're right 1980 Was Was empire
and then 83 or 84
I thought it was 82 Was it you could be right you could be I thought it was 82 Hey,
fun fact. I saw it the other day
fun fact we were all born after these movies. Yeah,
that's that's for sure. No, no. Get this episode for in 1977 released 83 Okay, there we go. We released in in in ADEA in 77. And it happened before the last guillotine beheading in in France well go France All right. 77 It was like two months after it was the last time and then like yeah, we shouldn't do this anyway. We should probably
not do this anymore.
Was it the person that gave him was someone who looked like cake?
No, he was probably too much of a Star Wars fan and just being annoying
so I don't really have anything else to add to space trash we went we went pretty long on space trash there but space crashes it's amazing because the I really wish we recorded some of it but the d&d campaign I wrote for Ross and Stephen here actually involved around space trash or as well so I'm like I came up with it I'm like you know we should talk about this in the Star Wars
podcast my character in the in the RPG is a sanitation engineer. Yeah was
yeah, he can like his cipher certain Oh, yeah,
you're right. He is he was he is part of the Alliance Special Forces.
He puts his ear to the ground and he can hear the type of trash compactors that are like running on the floor of the space station that we're in three storeys
down.
So crazy, fun fact here. Metacritic only gives Empire Strikes Back in 82%.
Well, Metacritic is wrong.
I was about to say if that doesn't shoot the credibility of Metacritic straight in the face then I don't know what will
that's a litmus test and they failed. They failed. Yeah, use your score 9.1 critic reviews 82 It's funny when you see the critic in the in the audience score is so desperate
that far it's only 10 Points off
yeah, I can't remember what movie it was not that long ago where I don't remember what it was but it was like a 40 point difference.
It was a that was episode nine.
Oh well yeah.
Where the the credit score was super high in the audio score was zero viewers score was Well, not zero, but very low. 10 points isn't unheard of. And a lot of movies are like that.
Well, yeah, it happened. It's starting to happen that way more and more were people go see the movie like, this is garbage. And then the critics are like, it's beautiful. It tells this story so perfectly and everyone's like, I didn't get that. It's still a shitty movie.
Okay, before we get too political with things here, because because it goes, it could go that direction, I
wasn't going to go that direction. Purposefully kept that out of the conversation.
So I was not expecting that we would already be this deep into the podcast. But I have two topics. And one topic is a theory. And another one is just a fun Maghreb engineering Star Wars.
Concert a theory, and then I have my own thing. This thing, Steven. Yeah. This podcast is gonna be like two. Yeah, I'm,
I'm good with don't worry about
it. I apologize. I always do sound whenever I'm on.
No, no, no, I love this. This is great. So So yeah, let's let's go ahead and do the theory. And this is a film theory that I came up with. About a week ago, I actually already shared it with the guys, but we can we can dig on this a little bit more. Because last week, we mentioned that we were doing a Star Wars podcast. And I was like, I got to think about something. And immediately what popped in my mind was a concept of the Star Wars universe. And get me on this. The the universe of the matrix. And the matrix being like the movie Matrix, which the matrix is is another trilogy out there. Right? It's sort of one of those trilogies where it's like, yeah, there's one Okay, movie and then there's two other movies. Those are movies. Yeah, they're movies, right? Okay,
the second Matrix movie isn't that bad. The third one is a little out there. Okay.
Okay, so the matrix does the very typical thing where it's like a ski slope downwards where you have 123
Like diehard like like diehard well, because Die Hard With a Vengeance was amazing. That's actually really
hard to is the best one. Oh, come on.
What the hell is wrong? You're one of those people on Metacritic? That's that kind of person.
The first I heard movies really good but it's Die Hard to is the best as a whole series. You're
okay, net keep going Steven I don't want this anymore. Well, okay,
here's another one. I'm gonna throw a monkey wrench in this because I know Parker is different on this one. But in terms of like bathtub curve of good and bad, Indiana Jones, one good hands down. Awful three. Amazing.
Yeah, I temple dooms the basketball
Come on. I'm with Steve Ali Ma. Taken as like, as a single movie sample size. Temple Of Doom is like a kitschy, like, campy cuz actually if
you take them as as individual movies, I would say the first one is the best one. The second one the second best one. The third one's the third best 1/3 best one I guess. You take it as a series. Last Crusade
is hands down the best of this series. We're gonna pretend that Crystal Skull doesn't even exist
yet. Yeah, I didn't say a fourth movie yet because I didn't know there was a fourth movie but the problem we're working on in the arts so it counts so it counts.
That'd be great if it works.
The biggest problem I have with with Last Crusade is it's the DAT like it's the son dad dynamic and which is fun, but they start explaining Luke this is actually really interesting is LucasArts doing this in Star Wars Episode One, two, and three as well as he starts explaining shit that doesn't need to be explained in that movie. So that's the beginnings of starting so what
how do they do that in the Last Crusade,
the dog's name in the all the background information of him growing up like it's it's stuff that doesn't need to be explained. Okay,
what Star Wars made an entire movie about Han Solo that nobody asked for.
Lucas didn't make that movie
fairpoint
money not even envy and not even Indiana Jones
but that's like is in terms of like a trilogy. I really liked the second one because it's Indiana Jones like the most Indiana Jones you see Indiana Jones being
I disagree Raiders the last arc is the most Indiana Jones you're gonna see Indiana Jones
be and you also don't have short round. Right?
He's a random character that just like appeared for remembering great and disappear After Yeah, they don't even talk about him in the third. Like,
that's actually true too. He's like, What happened to this orphan Jason that Enya Jones actually really cared about in the second movie. He's just not there anymore. She
was legal guardian or something. Why are you carrying a 14 year old around the entire world? Like chasing Nazis?
That's the thing. There are there are technically four Indiana Jones movies. Two of them are about Indiana Jones kicking Nazi ass. And two of them are about random other things. And two of them are good. I'm just
saying. One of those maybe, is kicking Russia NASS, here's which could be same as not
i this i just in terms of the movie, I have to vet this theory by watching the movies. But maybe Indiana Jones wasn't meant to be well viewed chronologically. Could be maybe Last Crusade is like the first chronological movie? I don't know. I'd have to go watch. Go watch it. Obviously crystal
skulls got there, maybe short round just somehow died. Maybe he's maybe that's the first movie, you know?
If that was the first movie, and then crusade was the second movie, and then Raiders was the third movie, that might actually work.
We're gonna have to go figure that out. That's another podcast.
That's okay. So let me I'm sorry, that was a hell of a tangent. Let's get back to my theory here. Okay, so my start over start. I'm just gonna put the premise out here, right now. My theory is that the Star Wars universe, and the matrix universe are actually the same universe at different times. So here's the thing, the beginning of every Star Wars universe starts with the crawl. And it says, What,
long time ago? Yeah, let's see. And again, far far away. So
I'm going to jump ahead real quick and just say, in the second, and technically the third matrix movies, they meet the, the architect, right. And the architect, that's when the movies getting really, they get super weird. But the architect in his like giant monologue section, he talks about the fact that the matrix isn't in and hasn't been perfect. And in, they have had multiple versions of the matrix. And they came up with the conclusion that's like, every time the matrix basically failed, because they they coded it incorrectly. And so they just restarted the servers and created a new universe. So my argument is that the current version of the matrix, the 1999 version of the matrix, is the is the sixth version and the appropriate version of the matrix. And the Star Wars universe was a version of the matrix that the matrix had created at one point in time, that starts to explain a handful of things. So first of all, that explains faster than light travel, which is not available right now. But if the universe is so large than the matrix had to make the capability for you to get across it, so they just created faster than light travel, like the speed of light doesn't mean anything. If if the matrix itself just arbitrarily sets what it is, right? I mean, in video games, you could, you could do that exact so yeah, it makes sense. Exactly. The you can think the matrix is a life more lifelike simulation of a video game. Exactly, exactly. Could have that rule. So the fundamental forces of nature could also just be whatever the matrix found them to be or decided for them to be. And all of us who are just asleep effectively in our little pods are just we just go along with it, because that is our reality. Right? So Indiana Jones is another alternate reality. I was actually thinking about that earlier, where like, it could be especially especially Episode
Two with supernatural I actual supernatural.
So exactly. So Indiana Jones could be another one. And that wasn't part of my theory, we just literally came up with this. So So here's the thing. How does this explain the force? How does the Star Wars part of Star Wars and The Matrix part of matrix tied together? So the force is a glitch? Because there's still humans behind the curtain? Like it's still human beings behind everything. And they explain everything in the matrix on like, how humans are able to subvert the code and subvert the matrix and do these extraordinary things. And my argument here is that in the Star Wars universe version of the matrix, the way that they explain it, is that it's just a religion. And because it's a religion, they can do it out in the open, they can do it just in front of people. And everyone's like, Oh, that's their weird Jedi religion. And then that's actually just them, just human beings. Manipulating the code and manipulating the matrix.
I like it. So who who's the Who's the Mr. Smith? The I guess? That's the Sith. Okay, Smith.
It's a mistranslation through the texts over the weeks,
I had thought about that. I thought about that. And here's the best part. Here's my goofy solution on how Agent Smith comes in. I was going to talk about this at the end, but we'll talk about No, Agent Agent Smith is Norton Antivirus. And the matrix accidentally installed it when they spun up their server when
they installed Adobe on accident and now it's it's become sentient.
And now it has gone rogue and Agent Smith is ant and nor.
Agent Smith is bloatware.
Yeah, exactly. And they can actually the what if you really think about an Agent Smith could be ransomware. He could be like, we're we're all programs in the matrix, right? But he could be holding the matrix ransom such that they're trying to deal with him at the same time. They're trying to deal with us. So what this all kind of leads to this theory is Neo. So
notes on this section.
Okay, sounds great. Sounds great. Neo, Neo exhibits all the same characteristics of a Jedi, right? So he has quick reaction. He is almost aware of the future. He's in basically in touch with his surroundings, and he has the ability to modify his environment, stopping bullets and yeah, right, right. Right. And his his reaction time to everything is almost like he knows what's going to happen. It's very akin to the Jedi, right? My argument is that Neo is a Jedi or the Jedi are Neo. And he is a NEO Jedi.
Yeah, that's what I was. Oh, man. So you know what's funny? This. So when Neo was it? When Neo says to Morpheus? When he gets he gets kung fu download into his brain, right? Right. He goes, I know Kung Fu and Morpheus is like, show me. That's Episode Seven, Ray.
Mo, so Ray, just
raise your hand. Jedi, deep chord Ben Solo or Kylo? Ren goes show me?
Actually, actually, none. Can you unlock them? Do
you make incentives here for
the reason why array can be such a Mary Sue and be good at freaking everything? Isn't because the Jedi religion is actually a thing she just kept.
Just downloads the things properly? Because there's less Jedi to go around. Yeah, yeah. So she has more bandwidth to the real world.
Or the people back in the Nebuchadnezzar or whatever the ship is. They're just focusing on downloading crap into her brain, as opposed to Mulk she's like
a Manchurian Candidate. She doesn't know that she's getting kung fu put into her brain.
Or maybe, or maybe she does. And she knows that she doesn't spill the beans. She just has to know that. So she just has to put up this religious force in as much
of a stretch as this is, it still makes more sense than the original story the way it was written? I would
agree with true. That's true. Yeah. So Ray could also be a NEO Jedi. The only difference is the setting. Right? I mean, she lives in the world where you can have spaceships and fly around as opposed to I don't know, wherever Neo was in 1999. In his
1999 in New York City,
New York. Toronto was where it was. Yeah, I
think it was. Yeah.
He's a Canuck Kiana is.
So the force is just the way people describe the manipulation of the code. But in 1999, they just, they've evolved past that. They don't have to call it the force. They just like, call it what it is.
So are you saying so let me let me just clarify. Are you saying that they're actually still plugged into the matrix? They've just become aware of ways to manipulate the code because it was an earlier version of the matrix? Or are they like the people in the movies? The Matrix, right, the Matrix trilogy where they're actually unplugged from the grid, and then they plug themselves back in
voluntarily,
right. I think that I think they plug themselves in voluntary and when they plug into the Star Wars universe back to just say, Oh, it's
a religion, we can do it.
They're like, Oh, it's a religion. I'm a Jedi I'm better than you kind of thing. And they they play that game because everyone believes it. And it all works out well for them, and they were in charge In the matrix, and then the Empire is a virus that comes to stop the Jedi. And it basically wins. And they reset it because they don't want a religion.
Or they don't want they don't want the virus the Empire to. So at the end of everything, they reboot and go, oh yeah, we're 1998 Vancouver now.
Exactly it exactly like the matrix has tried different versions of the universe. And when they fail, because things go out of it just they just reset and make a whole brand new setting. So the people who are there have to create a new way to subvert it. I tried searching for someone else who's had the idea that Neo is a Jedi or the Jedi are matrix people. And I haven't found anyone else who's come up.
So the crystal skulls are Mr. Smith's
I should hit up that that YouTube Channel film theory and oh yeah. I'll take it.
Alright, so we have anything else on matrix Ex Machina? Star Wars NeoGeo Jedi. That's gonna be the title for this podcast. That's awesome. I got nothing. Okay.
This this next topic is great. I read a little bit of Parker's notes on him like, Oh, this is fantastic. It's
like going to the car. So in The Phantom Menace, episode one circa 1991.
No, no, no. 9999 2099 991
is Jurassic Park. Was that 93?
I think it was 92 or 93.
I'm terrible with I was like, I can't even play COVID on that one with five or six? Yeah. I got on, I think
old enough to buy a movie ticket at that point.
I'm looking at not just sparks 93 at pretty sure Episode One Star Wars is 92,090.
It's 99. Just Just as an aside here totally off 299 Yes. Jurassic Park 1993. The way they shot that movie, it's still looks better than most movies in modern day. Like
I agree. 100% holds it holds. That's a that's seven previous version of the matrix. Did you hear that?
Matrix origins. So the rafter
the island that they were trying to build was the previous version of the matrix. They're trying to recreate it in the major
it was it was in dev like it was the dev environment. Dev environment, right? Because
it could only be the size of somebody promoted
the code without QA Now luckily, we have
the whole thing. Whole thing about docs about that movie is spared no expense, except on top tech support.
Au tech support and security. Like so they have a security guy for
at least the security guy is like armed to the teeth. Right?
Yeah, well, and then he's armed.
In terms of equipment. In terms of equipment, the guy has got, like, oodles of like, shotguns, all that stuff. But like in terms of like tech support and development, there's one developer
Yeah, they could they could have gotten like a service agreement for probably cheaper than they paid that one guy and had 24 hours support from a whole team and like, you know, New Delhi or Could
you could you imagine calling up India tech support? Yeah, the T Rex got out. Turn it on the cage.
You tried rebooting?
That might be worse. Anyways, so
this is gonna get edited out.
Now we'll keep that traveling to the point, how do we get on that topic?
That was my fault. Sorry. No, we were
talking about the Years Movies and that's right. Okay, so nine I said circa 91. Didn't some reason I said 91 interest as 99 Jar Jar Binks is a sensation around the world. And for good reason. Boss Nass, which is jar jars. Gang leader. I guess he's the king of the gun. Good thing of the gun guns. Leader that we don't know if he's a king or not. Since our heroes, Qui Gon and Obi Wan and Jar Jar through the core of Naboo as the fastest way He travelled to the other side of the planet with the Trade Federation, hunting them on the surface. So, could there be one a planet with the core full of water so you could travel in a submarine all the way through?
It's a Swiss cheese,
Swiss cheese planet full of caves. And two, does water even still be liquid that you can go through at those depths? So, we better call Elon Musk because first of all, we have tunnels full of water that we need navigating through with a submarine and to you know, making tunnels.
I could see Elon being the kind of guy where it's like yeah, the fastest route to China is to just drill straight through was just gonna Yeah, just drill through the mantle and while you're at it, let's nuke it.
That would be if he ended all his like press offices and he's like any other just nuke it
wouldn't be the first time No.
1950s called new Quick side note could solve everything.
Side note on this that I was a little bit upset about In fact, I was I was railing on this to Roz the other night.
But Elon Musk or 1999 Jar Jar Binks. Elon Musk launched his car into orbit,
right? His whole Yes, Tesla base trash.
He made space trash also basically recreated the intro to the movie heavy metal the animated movie. Like he recreated it and like, I didn't see enough people saying like, this is the intro to heavy metal which means that there's not a lot of people have seen heavy metal. So if you haven't seen it, go see it because it's awesome. And it's awful at the same time, and it's not for kids. So don't watch I mean, you kids should
not be listening to this podcast either.
I think if you can still live stream the video from from the cruiser the Tesla Spaceman? Yeah. Yeah. Gotta be,
they should have that that music going on the entire time just to infinite loop down control. The beginning of heavy metal starts with like a shuttle opening up. And, and a Corvette drops out of a shuttle and goes into orbit and like, goes down onto a planet and parachutes down onto a planet. Wow, there's heavy metal playing in the background. And it is badass. It is awesome. And Elon Musk basically recreated that in real life. And all credit goes to him for that. Sorry, okay. Traveling through the planets, coal, coal.
We got some really bad Georgia Binks impression there. Yeah, it's spot on. Perfect. Hire me for episode 10.
So what does that even mean going through the court? Does that mean go through like laterally across the planet? But just under the surface? Or does that literally mean go? So we
don't know. We don't know if what Boss Nass actually meant by that. He just says go through the core. So I'm going to assume that is we're going to go straight, like where they're at on the planet, and the city they need to go to is on the opposite end of the planet. So they gotta go. Is either
really, really small, or they just omit like, a week worth of travel?
Well, it depends on how fast you go. Under underwater, but so the first thing I Bango, the first thing I looked at, it was like, okay, liquid liquid water is when you're in high school, they go, oh, yeah, liquid water is not compressible, I'm like, you can compress it, you can compress the liquid slightly, because eventually, you can compress a liquid enough water into it will turn into a solid ice. It's funny to think of it that we normally deal with water at like room temperature and freezing temperature. So we're changing the temperature of it to turn it into a solid. But you can do the same thing by squeezing it really, really, really hard. So if you look at the face change diagram of water, which is the pivot NERT of of that's pressure times volume equals and which is the what's mn? It's this is bringing me back to dark. Yeah, it's the it's the it's not. It's not a variable, but it's a it's a I gotta see in physics so Dan has me not standard. It's a
the ideal gas law, n is the amount of substance that's what we compete the
amount of substance so it actually is a variable than I thought it was a so there must be like in moles, then amount of substance in moles. And then r is Oh, that's what R is the constants is the ideal gas. So I thought N was the constant, it's R, and then T is temperature. So you modify those variables, and you can make pretty much matter go into vapor, or into pressurized liquid or pressurized ice in this case, so stop thinking about the ice as being cold and just think about it as compressing it into a solid. So if you can be able to compress liquid water into a solid ice, it's like 92,000 psi, which is insane to think about ridiculous ridiculous thing about. And so the thing is, is let's just assume Naboo is like, an, let's just think about Earth. Okay, so you have an earth shape planets, water would have to be at a depth of because as water stacks up, gravity makes pressure as you go lower. And so being at extreme depths, you have more pressure. So to be at a depth to get to 92,000 psi, you have to be a depth of 1200 miles, which actually isn't that far, assuming it's freshwater, always freshwater. But actually, salinity doesn't really change the calculation all too much. It's only off by a little bit. But the thing about it, this is between Steven and I is less than 1200 miles. Okay, so it's that. And in the scheme of distances in the United States, it's not that far. Some other people might be like, That's really far away. It's, it's like a state over in United States, so it's not too far away. If you're in Texas, it's every other state around you. Yeah, I'm like 600 miles in your state. So anyways, so if we have an earth shaped planet sized planet, it's 1200 miles of, of water depth. So if you had 1200 miles of water, at the very bottom there, it would be compressed into solid water, which is kind of cool to think about. But the thing is on earth, the deepest point is 6.8 miles, which is Marianas Trench, the Challenger Deep. So James Cameron's gonna have to go deeper to get the solid ice. So I went in online and started looking up other things about like the plant Naboo. Plant in Naboo is 7456 miles and radius. So I'm going to talk in the radius because we're talking about depth and radius makes more sense that way. So if Naboo was a water core world's like the core was water, it actually would be solid, because there'll be so much depth there, it would have a solid core of water. But what if Nibiru had a Molten Core, like Earth does, so it like it made heat? Well, to make, like that depth to still be liquid, the water would have to be 1400 degrees Fahrenheit. And I tried looking that up. And there hasn't been a lot of experimentation of like super high pressure and super high temperature water. And like, what that actually really does to like, does it like on a microscopic level, like start turning into vapor? Like because water does as a nonpolar molecule, water does weird shit. When it starts like encountering like angles of like other surfaces, and you get like, weird instances where like water will just like even though it's under pressure, it will start vaporizing instantly when it encounters weird shapes on a microscopic level, really weird stuff. So I couldn't really go too much farther with this. But basically, it's like, I don't think going through the core was exactly what he meant. Because it would it would be impossible, unless like there was a core molten core that they could like I slipped past. Let's say that bomb, I think the shipper called the bongo. Yeah, I think it's the bongo ship could survive like 1400 degrees Fahrenheit, which is like it does not look like no, I think that's like, a quarter the temperature the sun surfaces the sun, too. So it's pretty hot. But it's interesting to think about it's like it's kind of a cool concept of like, being able to fly through a planet. But like, I don't know if it worked out science wise.
I think I think I think the best situation seems like they took some kind of tunnels that Ron did along the railroad Kessler run
of the of the Naboo core.
Exactly, but it have you think about if you think about having to travel across the hemisphere of a planet underwater, like our submarines that do that right now take like a month or two because they go really slow.
They're not Star Wars bongos they're not bongos. So if you could go let's say, if you were a airplane flying over the surface, or you could like use a ski boats that would go at the same speed, the ski boat could technically go fast would travel more land faster because it's closer. Its radius to the center of the Earth is closer, so it's smaller distance. So if you could, like, skim under the water, you it would be faster. But it's totally they're going they are going down. Because they kind of allude to like go down into the depths. There's always a bigger fish
I don't know this this one I'm gonna mark as like not solved, not solved. Yeah, myth. Yeah. I kind of got stuck at nonmem Busted. Yeah,
I kind of got stuck at the like. Like, humans have not done testing on this kind of environment yet.
Yeah, yeah. This is this is beyond reality.
There's apparently some American physicist named Percy Williams Bridgman? Brigman. Uh, he did research and said, There's apparently 17 Different forms of ice, depending on the pressure and temperature, according to this post that I'm reading on Quora, which is totally reputable. Yeah, says three Giga Pascal's, you can turn water into ice at room temperature, which is about 100. And some, you know, close to what you said. 180 something miles deep. The pressure.
Yeah, this is calculating in like, it would be really cold down there too, right? Because like, Marianas Trench is like 34 degrees Fahrenheit. It's really close to freezing. That's amazing that even at that pressure at 34 degrees, it doesn't. I think this is why in like high school classes, they're like, oh, it's liquid water. Don't worry about it. It doesn't compress. Because it doesn't really but you have to apply that much pressure, which is insane to think about. It's not like you can Oh, man, is there a substance or material molecule that you can compress with human human power? And like change? Its its state of matter. Silly, buddy. That's Oh, that's a non atomic fluid. So no.
Ketchup, starch and water.
I don't know. Is there one?
That's a good problem. It has to be Oh, gallium changes phases. It like almost room temperature.
Yeah, but that's just that doesn't that's not changing phases due to you pressing on it. That's true. It's
your temperature. You're right. Yeah,
you're right. Mercury too.
But that is that mercury is always liquid at human temperature, room temperature. But gallium would change from you pushing your hand on it just heats. But yeah, you're not you're right. It's not pressure. I wonder there's anything pressure wise that I wonder how much physical pressure a human could exert? So you're basically saying a thing that you can take in your hand and you can squeeze it and it turns into a gas Yeah, something like or no turn into a solid it turns into like if you had a a balloon full of this gas or liquid and you could squeeze it and change it to its other states?
I doubt it. I really doubt it at room temperature. Just because like the spectrum of forces that we can apply as a human being is like a slip of like the hole
according to Rocky for Yvonne Drago could punch it he measured to 20 150 psi when he punched the machine right so that's at 600 pounds or so he was splitting four tons of yeah four tons of force with with Justice fist so of course he had those really powerful Russian steroids so
he can turn your blood vessels into mush
Yeah, he liquefy your face.
If he does
is Rocky is like world for the matrix. Rocky is just the boxes are the people.
You know what's funny, it would be really great to have like a repository of stories where it's like, well, this this could be the matrix out in some other for Middle Earth.
You know, yeah,
I think that's the most common one is Middle Earth from Lord of the Rings, but like, take what is worlds movie worlds or literature are worlds that have like normal settings people are normal people and typically no more than you have above normal people like me cameo or no but like Jesus is a normal wizard just got lightened gold
has had Jason Bourne
yeah like no actually Jason Bourne like it's a normal. It's supposed to be like real life except that are John Wick. Yeah,
they killed I mean that that John Wick
is Keanu Reeves a Jedi don't say that he's Neo. He's Neo Jedi.
Bill and Ted. Be
excellent to each other.
He's the architect in that movie.
What's his name? George Carlin's character, Rufus.
That's true. That's true. He is He is the original Morse. Code. Yeah.
So I do agree with you, Stephen. It's not solved. So if you take it literally as going through the core, it's not possible.
I think what you did is you didn't necessarily set out to solve that problem. You set out to ask a lot of questions. And you presented a ton of questions. And now it's like, Oh, damn, like when they say that. It's like, oh,
yeah, you don't want it because any planet without an iron core has no magnetic field. All of the liquid water is just going to evaporate. Anyways, and it's gonna
eventually that's true. There's no Van Allen belts on. Unless this magnetic Naboo shouldn't
even exist. Magnetic water.
It could exist for an earlier period. Solar says we can make
liquid transformers. That's awesome.
I have nothing else to add about traveling to the core except Phantom Menace is not as bad of a movie as people think.
First you said 20 Temple of Doom. And now you're saying Phantom Menace?
I haven't seen it in 20 years. So I'm not. I'm not fair judge of the movies. You're
given a shot. It's expected wife and I watched it not that long ago. It's it's not as bad as we remember it being it's bad. It's not as it's not.
The thing is, it has a lot of really good world building. The characters are actually pretty good. Like Jar Jar is a story. There's a story. I will say years grow.
One thing that prequels did right? Is it still feels like Star Wars like it's still very much Star Wars like the Galaxy, the people the characters, the weapons, the ships, the scenery. It feels like Star Wars. You can't really say the same thing about the sequels.
i Episode Seven you can episode eight nine? Not really.
Yeah, it just doesn't feel like Star Wars to me.
Okay, so on to the last topic
is this last topic? It's probably like the eighth last topic of how we've been going well, okay, so
this is the last written down topic, we probably have plenty more to say
19 tangents in this one topic.
Let's hope so. So this last, this last topic is a little bit more I shoot a classic macro fed Star Wars podcast episode thing, because I have I have a little bit of a calculation, but I've distilled it down to make it simple. I have a little bit of a story to go before this though. A year ago, when the Mandalorian first came out. I remember watching the first three episodes, and I watched them back to back because I didn't even know about the Mandalorian really. And then I got Disney plus and there were three episodes. And I watched them and I binge them and they were so good. And Parker had seen it before me. So I'm texting Parker, I'm like, This is so awesome. And so we both kind of text Rods and we're like, if you don't have this, you're not our friend anymore. Like you need to go watch the Mandalorian and, and one of the
you must you must submit yourself to capitalistic instincts and pay $7 for the Mickey Mouse. So you'd be our friends.
Exactly. Was that shallow because this will change you know, okay, so. And one of the one of the things we were saying about one of the things we're heralding is just like how cool it was the weapons, the vehicles and everything and how Star Wars The it was. And in I think it's the second maybe it's the third episode, the Mandalorian he comes across a sandcrawler on tattooing and he single handedly goes up against the sandcrawler fulla Jawas. And he starts by like, looking over a precipice this little like cliff thing with his sniper rifle, which is called an Ambien phase pulse blaster, which is basically like Star Wars ultimate sniper rifle. And he zeroes in on a Jawa and he pulls the trigger. And it's not like a projectile comes out and hits the Jawa or a laser beam shoots a hole in the Jawa, he pulls the trigger and the Java vaporizes, like, the Java doesn't exist anymore.
And it's not just like, the, it's not just the Java doesn't exist anymore. But everything else the Java had still exists, the robes and
worries, yeah, it just
still exists. The organic material inside of the robes don't exist anymore.
But it's like one pull of the trigger and the entire living being is just erased from existence. Like we I remember, I remember distinctly I shouldn't even go look back to my text and be like, he vaporizes a Joe Wah, Roz, you gotta watch this. But, but Okay, so I actually have a YouTube link to like this. This exact scene has its own like YouTube video. So we'll post the video in the show notes. So I decided to go look into what kind of energy his sniper rifle would need to upon a trigger pole instantaneously vaporize a Jawa. So let me step you through what I've gone through here. It's fairly simplistic. And actually, someone's done a bit of the heavy lifting for me. So I'll give you this link here. I found, I found this website. The title of this article is, so you're ready to vaporize a human,
Scientific American,
Scientific American? Actually a publication? Yeah, it's like legit. So I found this website that basically says like, Okay, you have a human and here's the average cross section of the human blah, blah, blah, how much energy would it take to overcome the energy of vaporization of a human being?
So you, you're talking about vaporization? In terms of what we're talking about the last topic, which is face your face changing a human from solid and liquid to vapor to gas, basically, you're making a huge turning them into, you're turning into a gaseous iron? Calcium? Carbon? Yeah. excetera
you're breaking hydrogen bonds on every part of the body
rapid oxidation?
Yeah. That's a pretty good way to put it. That's, that's, that's exactly
oxidization of the human body in about a pico second. Right,
right. So the actually, the timing that you're talking about Parker comes into play here. So so this articulations this article calls out the amount of energy required to vaporize an average human being as three Giga joules. And they say it's from a death rate, but death rates are super. I don't know. Death rates feel Stankey 50 ish. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, like, what is that war the world's they feel like War of the Worlds kind of thing. Right. So Ambien phase pulse Blaster is a little bit better. So it takes three Giga joules of energy from this vault cluster.
To How much energy does it take? How much time How much energy does take the travel time?
Well, depends on what version of the matrix you're in porker.
No backlight feature. So,
version one point 21 jigowatts. Yeah, well, gigawatts. Who knows what Jigga means? And some, like 88 I'm gonna do this calculator. Okay, cool. So I looked up, there's, you can you can go find the average statistics of species of Star Wars out there. So, Star wars.fandom.com/wiki/jawa gives the average mass of a Jawa at 30 kilograms. And the average mass of a human being on the earth is 62 kilograms. So we can assume that a job was about half a human being. So if a human takes three Giga joules of energy from a death rate to vaporize a Java would take one and a half Giga joules.
All right. So I've it's actually, gigawatts is what he says. 1.21 gigawatts. Oh, he says,
Jake. He says jigowatts. What? Anyway,
but J i ja. It's the same unit.
Right? It's a gigawatt. It's a gigawatt. But he announces it. Jigawa Yeah.
So it takes two runs of the DeLorean to vaporize a person. You He apparently Yeah, yeah. So it's, you can travel through time twice, or you can vaporize someone
when I'm picking
So, okay, so I started thinking like, okay, so putting, putting 18 650 cells, like if you were to have an 18 650 battery inside of the Ambien phase pulse blaster, how many of those would it take to actually be able to deliver one and a half Giga joules of energy, and that would be 1.5 billion Giga joules, actually. He controls 1.5 billion joules of energy, right? That's what that would be. So if you if I found another website that just basically described the amount of joules within a or potential within a 18 650, and we can expect somewhere in the range of 42,600 joules per battery per cell. So if we take 1.5 billion and divide by 40, to 600, I'm actually doing this on the fly, it would actually take I wrote down the wrong number here, in the notes, not 35 cells, 35,200 cells,
they'll say, I'm like, maybe I would carry 35 cells of eights and sixes just vaporize whoever I did not like
me. Okay, so here's the thing. That's funny, okay, so it takes 35,000 to 211 cells to get one and a half Giga joules worth of energy out of it. That's assuming you could actually deliver that within a short period of time, right? Yeah,
you're gonna run up to the discharge rate internal resistance of those cells, right.
So over a long period of time, those 35,000 could produce or could deliver 1.5 giga, giga joules. So let's just pretend like we had like, super special, I don't know, Parker's 92,000 psi batteries that are in exact state, and they could deliver it all. So the question is, if you have 45, each cell is has a weight of about 45 grams. So if you've got 45 grams times 32,000. Let me see here, because I'm doing active math on this.
So leave all those keyboard noises in
that that hacking. That ends up being 3500 pounds worth of batteries that the Mandalorian would have to carry around with him if they were all 18 650 cells. So something a little bit something seems a little bit off there?
Well, it's Star Wars. It's the have we calculated like the energy density of like, oh, no, we did this couple years ago. Yeah. Where you could have like, you could power a lightsaber, which has has also an insane you know, Jewel need rating to build like, cut a hole in a blast door. Right, right, right. And we calculate what was the batteries? So like, you could do the batteries with with Fusion? Right, right, right, converting basically the matter of the battery into pure energy. If you could harness that in the size of a D cell battery, you could
just split atoms and harness that energy, then it doesn't matter.
Wouldn't life be so easy? If we could just do that?
Come on, architect of the matrix, we need version seven.
Let us split the atoms directly.
We're still in your 1999 world.
So alright, so I'll take it a step further for you. They're the little boy atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Released between. Let's see if I'm reading this right, it's 63 Tera joules. If I'm looking at this correctly, 15 kilotons of TNT, which says 63 TGA, which I'm assuming means Terra joules. Yeah. Yeah. Converted to gigawatts per hour is 17.4 gigawatts per hour.
is more than enough to vaporize humans. Or jell
o drawers that you're assuming though you're putting all that energy that that atomic bomb into one person?
Well, so so hold on. That's my point is like instantly. That's That's my point. 1.5 billion joules, right. Let's see. It's a lot
less than a handful a trillion joules. Right.
And let's see, they do give you thanks to Google. We can convert that into kilowatt hours. That's 400 16 kilowatt hours, like, in the blink of an eye. If I'm doing my math three
kilowatt hours is not much.
It doesn't seem like a lot, does it? No. Let me count my zeros here. 1231230 I'm missing 0123123 No, they got 1.5 billion Yes. 1416 kilowatt hours.
Yeah, but But it all depends on how, what timeframe? That's it right? If you put all that into a picosecond then you got something that is like Mandos sniper rifle.
No, so go ahead.
And this thing is like it's take the example of the atomic bomb going off. It's spread out over a large area and sure it destroyed a lot of stuff and and, and took a lot of people's lives. But it did not turn those people into vapor.
The atomic bomb? I'm sure it did a handful within a certain maybe just a skin No. within a certain radius. So yeah, shouldn't write it within a certain radius at Ground Zero people turned instantly into vapor. I guarantee you
Yeah, yeah. 100%. But but that radius is is potentially not as large
thing. It's if color. A few kilometers, I think for especially those two bombs, because those
Yeah, but Matt is doing that with a with
a handheld. And then the radius is with ammunition and fits in a bandolier on his belt.
But what also the radius is the inside of a jaw was like
rope and nothing else. The rope is untouched.
Rope is on touch. It's like when Obi Wan gets sliced by Vader. And all that's left is the robe. And what is the reasoning for that? I don't know. But does that mean that the Jawa was the Jedi
to MIDI chlorines? I don't know. You can't take to the other world. Yeah. Store up your
so all the Jedi they get turned into force.
You know, actually, I just realized this. What's great about that scene, it Darth Vader after he after he hits him with the lightsaber. He drove around. He's like steps on it to make sure what bastard shrink
is really confused. I think he's like, What the fuck?
So Obi Wan just like entered. So I guess the theory is maybe maybe Vader didn't actually hit Obi Wan with the lightsaber. Maybe Obi Wan like gave up his physical being and entered his state of force Nirvana and and cease to exist in the physical world.
I think that's actually what it is because, because when the lightsaber just goes right through the robe and doesn't even actually even hit the robe. True story.
Okay, so that's, that's potentially mirrored in episode eight when Luke is just like I give up. And just
kind of a proof is yeah, of course he does it slower, so he must not be as good of a Jedi as Obi Wan. Well, he didn't practice as much, I guess.
Probably not.
Well, he was a loser on that island all by himself. So yeah. Well, hermit. Oh, let's see. How long have you been going on for now? And while 40 minutes because we had a couple of disconnects guys here.
So we're at 40 Callie things up?
Yeah. 4056. We're almost at two hours. So rock and roll. I think we could safe to assume that we have completed the fifth annual McWrap Star Wars Christmas special podcast. I Roz you want to sign us out? Or actually. Does anyone else have anything else to contribute this year? Thanks for having me back. See you next class. That was my job. But
also everyone have a good rest of the year and they help. Yeah, thanks to or here's to everyone who's you know, this is kind of been a crappy year. So thanks for sticking around with us.
Fuck 2020
It's been it's been a rough one. Cool. You want to sign us out? Roz?
That was your macro fab engineering podcast.
A week. You were our guest Roz? Well, it
doesn't say that in the write up. So yeah, I
didn't do that part.
Alright, let's start that over again. Now we're just keep
going. And I was the host, Parker Dolman
and Steven Craig. Later, everyone take it easy.
Hopefully in 52 More episodes. We have another podcast about Star Wars. Yeah. We can talk about what he talked about. We're looking forward to
restart the recording. We'll just slip it in there. No
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